Romans 8: Doctrinal Summary

On Aug 27, 2024, Christ Rose wrote
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Romans 8

Those who are in Christ, and walk after the Spirit, are free from
condemnation, 1-4, The carnal mind, and the spiritual mind distinguished, so
that they only are the children of God, who have the Spirit of Christ, are
"led by the Spirit," and mortify the flesh, 9-14, "The Spirit of adoption"
testifies with their spirit, and marks them as children and heirs of God;
though now exposed to suffering, 15-18, The creation, through man’s sin, is
subject to vanity, and waits for deliverance at "the manifestation of the
children of God," 19-22; who "groan being burdened," and are saved in hope,
and patiently expect deliverance, 23-25; the Holy Spirit aiding their
prayers, and thus rendering them acceptable, 26, 27, All things work together
for the good of those who love God, as "called according to his purpose,"
which springs from their predestination to life, 28-31; and is secured by the
death, resurrection, and intercession of Christ, 32-34, Nothing shall
separate them from the love of God through Christ, 35-39.[UCRT]

Post by Christ Rose
God
Providence: God works all things
together for the good of those who love
Him and are called according to His
purpose (Romans 8:28). This verse
highlights God's sovereign control over
every circumstance in the believer's
life, ensuring that all things, even
suffering, ultimately serve His good
purposes (cf. Genesis 50:20; Ephesians
1:11).

If God was sovereign over the believers, then why are you not walking in Love
as He Commanded, toward the brethren? Or are you tacitly admitting that you
are not who you claim to be?

Post by Christ Rose
Love: God's love for His people is
steadfast and unbreakable. Nothing in
all creation can separate believers from
the love of God that is in Christ Jesus
(Romans 8:38-39). This underscores the
depth and permanence of God's love for
His children.
Jesus Christ
Intercession: Jesus Christ is at the
right hand of God, interceding for
believers (Romans 8:34). This highlights
His ongoing role as our High Priest,
continuously advocating on our behalf
before the Father (cf. Hebrews 7:25; 1
John 2:1).
Justification: Through the death and
resurrection of Jesus, believers are
justified and set free from condemnation
(Romans 8:1, 8:34). This reflects the
doctrine of justification by faith,
where believers are declared righteous
because of Christ's atoning sacrifice
(cf. Romans 5:1, 5:9).
Holy Spirit
Indwelling: The Holy Spirit dwells
within every believer, affirming their
identity as children of God (Romans 8:9,
8:16). This indicates the Holy Spirit's
role in the believer's life as a witness
to their adoption into God's family (cf.
Galatians 4:6). It mentions that the
Spirit bears witness "with" our spirit
that we are the children of God, not
"to" our spirit. This seems to assume
the believer's life is characterized by
behavior which testifies to being a
child of God, and that as he does this,
the Holy Spirit bears witness "with" our
spirit that we are a child of God.
Guidance: The Holy Spirit leads
believers in their daily lives, guiding
them to live according to God's will and
enabling them to resist sin (Romans
8:14). This guidance is part of the
Spirit's work in sanctifying believers
(cf. John 16:13; Galatians 5:16-18).
Man
New Identity: Believers are no longer
condemned because they are in Christ
Jesus, and they have been given a new
identity as children of God (Romans 8:1,
8:15). This speaks to the transformation
that occurs through faith in Christ,
where believers are freed from sin's
power and adopted into God's family (cf.
2 Corinthians 5:17; John 1:12).
Sin
Condemnation Defeated: There is no
condemnation for those who are in Christ
Jesus, because through Him, the law of
the Spirit of life has set them free
from the law of sin and death (Romans
8:1-2), and God is the one who justifies
through faith in Christ (8:33). This
illustrates the victory over the power
of sin achieved through Christ's work
and the indwelling presence of the Holy
Spirit (cf. 1 Corinthians 15:56-57).
Salvation
Future Glory: Salvation includes the
hope of future glorification, where
believers will be conformed to the image
of Christ and share in His glory (Romans
8:17-18, 8:29-30). This reveals the
completeness of God's redemptive plan,
which encompasses both present
transformation and future perfection
(cf. Philippians 3:20-21; Colossians
3:4). God speaks of the believer's
glorification as an established,
predestined fact (8:29-30).
Church
Unity in Suffering and Glory: Believers
share in both the sufferings of Christ
and the future glory that will be
revealed (Romans 8:17). This highlights
the unity of the church in experiencing
both the challenges and the future hope
of salvation, encouraging mutual support
and perseverance (cf. 1 Peter 4:13; 1
Corinthians 12:26).
Last Things
Redemption of Creation: All of creation
eagerly awaits its future redemption,
which will occur at the revealing of the
children of God (Romans 8:19-22). This
points to the eschatological renewal of
the created order, where creation itself
will be liberated from its bondage to
decay (cf. Revelation 21:1-5; Isaiah
65:17).
Resurrection: The Holy Spirit, who
raised Jesus from the dead, will also
give life to believers' mortal bodies
(Romans 8:11). This affirms the doctrine
of the future bodily resurrection for
those who are in Christ, promising that
they will be raised to eternal life (cf.
1 Corinthians 15:20-23, 15:52-53).

Christ Rose

2024-08-28 02:44:20 UTC

Post by Christ Rose
Romans 8
Those who are in Christ, and walk after the Spirit, are free from
condemnation, 1-4, The carnal mind, and the spiritual mind distinguished, so
that they only are the children of God, who have the Spirit of Christ, are
"led by the Spirit," and mortify the flesh, 9-14, "The Spirit of adoption"
testifies with their spirit, and marks them as children and heirs of God;
though now exposed to suffering, 15-18, The creation, through man’s sin, is
subject to vanity, and waits for deliverance at "the manifestation of the
children of God," 19-22; who "groan being burdened," and are saved in hope,
and patiently expect deliverance, 23-25; the Holy Spirit aiding their
prayers, and thus rendering them acceptable, 26, 27, All things work together
for the good of those who love God, as "called according to his purpose,"
which springs from their predestination to life, 28-31; and is secured by the
death, resurrection, and intercession of Christ, 32-34, Nothing shall
separate them from the love of God through Christ, 35-39.[UCRT]

If God was sovereign over the believers, then why are you not walking in Love
as He Commanded, toward the brethren? Or are you tacitly admitting that you
are not who you claim to be?

1) As mentioned a half-dozen times already, God does not become
sovereign if and when people obey Him. He even uses people's willful
rebellion against Him to accomplish His greater purposes:

“For truly against Your holy Servant Jesus, whom You anointed, both
Herod and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles and the people of Israel,
were gathered together to do whatever Your hand and Your purpose
determined before to be done.” (Acts 4:27–28, NKJV)

2) Your daily habit of contradicting and trying to poison people's minds
against the truth of God's word, the gospel, or anything else which does
not come out of your own mouth, is not "love". So don't hypocritically
preach to me about my failure to show love, while you're manifesting
hatred for any truth which doesn't come out of your own mouth.

A) Even when someone gives a Biblically correct answer (like Michael on
the fact that Christ was all about losing your life for His sake), you
claim that statement is wrong, and try to discredit it. When challenged
on the fact it is correct, you claim to the effect they're still wrong,
because you decided they had the wrong motive (the one you decided to
impute to them) for stating the truth.

B) That pattern, for me, is beyond the pail. It's consistent with the
kind of demonic wisdom which motivated the Jews to follow Paul around
and contradict, oppose, and try to poison people's minds against
everything he said (see https://christrose.news/demonic-wisdom). It
suggests you are not here to promote the truth, but to promote yourself
even if it means publicly opposing and trying to poison people's minds
against sound Bible teaching.

C) You're like Diotrephes. Diotrephes loved to have the preeminence
among the believers, refused to welcome other Christian teachers, and
even expelled those who wanted to welcome them (3 John 1:9-10).

2) Love does not rejoice in or flatter your pattern of behavior against
the truth, but sharply rebukes it out of a love for the truth and those
whose minds you seek to poison against it.

--
Have you heard the good news Christ died
for our sins (†), and God raised Him
from the dead?

That Christ died for our sins shows
we're sinners who deserve the death
penalty. That God raised Him from the
dead shows Christ's death satisfied
God's righteous demands against our sin
(Romans 3:25; 1 John 2:1-2). This means
God can now remain just, while forgiving
you of your sins, and saving you from
eternal damnation.

On the basis of Christ's death and
resurrection for our sins, call on
the name of the Lord to save you:
"For "everyone who calls on the name
of the Lord will be saved."" (Romans
10:13, ESV)

https://christrose.news/salvation

Robert

2024-08-28 05:17:42 UTC

Post by Christ Rose
Providence: God works all things
together for the good of those who love
Him and are called according to His
purpose (Romans 8:28). This verse
highlights God's sovereign control over
every circumstance in the believer's
life, ensuring that all things, even
suffering, ultimately serve His good
purposes (cf. Genesis 50:20; Ephesians
1:11).

If God was sovereign over the believers, then why are you not walking in Love
as He Commanded, toward the brethren? Or are you tacitly admitting that you
are not who you claim to be?

1) As mentioned a half-dozen times already, God does not become
sovereign if and when people obey Him. He even uses people's willful

None of which is an example of being Sovereign.
Perhaps because of your inability to define the word, you have no
understanding or the word.
There was a reason for asking you to define it, without a definition there is
no understanding, and none of the scripture you quote backs up your
assertions.

Post by Christ Rose
“For truly against Your holy Servant Jesus, whom You anointed, both
Herod and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles and the people of Israel,
were gathered together to do whatever Your hand and Your purpose
determined before to be done.” (Acts 4:27–28, NKJV)

The idea is that their effort of opposition to the divine will proved to be a
stroke of alliance with it. ... They met together in a council of war against
Christ; unconsciously to themselves they signed a treaty for the promotion of
Christ's glory. ... Our God does not beat down the storms that rise against
Him; He rides upon them; He works through them. [Matheson]

IOW he did not pull puppet strings and force then to do anything as you
assumed.

Post by Christ Rose
2) Your daily habit of contradicting and trying to poison people's minds
against the truth of God's word, the gospel, or anything else which does
not come out of your own mouth, is not "love". So don't hypocritically
preach to me about my failure to show love, while you're manifesting
hatred for any truth which doesn't come out of your own mouth.

Awwww, the ever ad homonyms and but Mommy look at what he is doing.
Your failure to understand reasoning, and the scriptures is on you.

Post by Christ Rose
A) Even when someone gives a Biblically correct answer (like Michael on
the fact that Christ was all about losing your life for His sake), you
claim that statement is wrong, and try to discredit it. When challenged
on the fact it is correct, you claim to the effect they're still wrong,
because you decided they had the wrong motive (the one you decided to
impute to them) for stating the truth.

I told him you two were alike, I did not think that you would so rapidly
support my words.
If I was in error, then why didn’t you quote what I said and show where
there was any error? Hmmmm?
Quoting scripture without the understanding of it and then applying your
personal dogma to it, does not make you wise, nor correct.

Post by Christ Rose
B) That pattern, for me, is beyond the pail. It's consistent with the
kind of demonic wisdom which motivated the Jews to follow Paul around
and contradict, oppose, and try to poison people's minds against
everything he said (see https://christrose.news/demonic-wisdom). It
suggests you are not here to promote the truth, but to promote yourself
even if it means publicly opposing and trying to poison people's minds
against sound Bible teaching.

Ah yes, more AI Rosie Dogma. All you are saying here is one giant PKB.
You claim to be giving “good sound Bible teaching” yet you sin daily,
love not the brethren, being totally opposed to the New Commandment that
Jesus the Real Christ spoke, and then defended your actions. Which according
to the word of God is,...

1Jn 3:14-15

14 We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the
brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.

15 Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer
hath eternal life abiding in him.

Not my words, but Gods. Tell us all, how can you, who claims to give good
sound biblical teachings, yet ignores those and similar scriptures be counted
worthy?

Who is it that is poisoning the minds of others?

Post by Christ Rose
C) You're like Diotrephes. Diotrephes loved to have the preeminence
among the believers, refused to welcome other Christian teachers, and
even expelled those who wanted to welcome them (3 John 1:9-10).

When have I ever refused to welcome teachers. Holding people accountable for
what they claim to believe yet their actions deny what their mouth is saying
is not seeking preeminence, the person that seeks that demands that others
acquiesce to their dogma and personal doctrines.

Post by Christ Rose
2) Love does not rejoice in or flatter your pattern of behavior against
the truth, but sharply rebukes it out of a love for the truth and those
whose minds you seek to poison against it.

You know not Love.

In the Name of Jesus

2024-08-28 23:33:01 UTC

If God was sovereign over the believers, then why are you not walking in Love
as He Commanded, toward the brethren? Or are you tacitly admitting that you
are not who you claim to be?

1) As mentioned a half-dozen times already, God does not become
sovereign if and when people obey Him. He even uses people's willful

The idea is that their effort of opposition to the divine will proved to be a
stroke of alliance with it. ... They met together in a council of war against
Christ; unconsciously to themselves they signed a treaty for the promotion of
Christ's glory. ... Our God does not beat down the storms that rise against
Him; He rides upon them; He works through them. [Matheson]
IOW he did not pull puppet strings and force then to do anything as you
assumed.

Awwww, the ever ad homonyms and but Mommy look at what he is doing.
Your failure to understand reasoning, and the scriptures is on you.

John, note the spirit of Satan. CringeRosie and Rob Religion both seek
to establish failure in one another. These ye know-not-love
"love-oozers" are typical of religious worldliness. So much for their
"Oh so holy fucked up morals," eh. :-).

Now, have a look into the daily life at work. When the gossip starts,
what is it all about—finding failure in their neighbour?

You see?

The spirit of the world is everywhere and seeking whom it may devour.

Look at the grand presentation of it in the political arena. Politics is
constantly about finding failure in your neighbour and establishing
yourself in righteousness in the name of "tooth." :-).

Liars.

And what does that remind you of? Exactly, the sinner Christianity lie,
full of sinners trying to establish their own righteousness while
parading the "useful" theology of the righteousness of the Lord.

In the Name of Jesus

PS: John, keep reading...

Hahahahahahahaha, that is so true! All ChristRose needs to see is he
goes about it in his own way; to see he is a sinner too.

Post by Robert
I told him you two were alike, I did not think that you would so rapidly
support my words.
If I was in error, then why didn’t you quote what I said and show where
there was any error? Hmmmm?
Quoting scripture without the understanding of it and then applying your
personal dogma to it, does not make you wise, nor correct.

John, notice ol' Robbo avoids the fact, "losing your life," and
salivatingly slithers slinkingly into his own "excellent" contextual
island out in the Robert Religion ocean of "where the hell am I?"

He avoids "losing your life" because he doesn't know what that is. As
you said, he demonstrated that clearly in the Job post and also Sheriff
in that video. See the next Job post I am about to post.

I know you are tempted, but have nothing to do with these wankers. They
can only be detrimental to you right now. They seek to steal the truth
for themselves and so do nothing but strive to pollute pearls with their
own swineness, attempting to slam down anything that does not have them
at the centre of fact, reality, and truth. Foul proselytisers, "Twice
the sons of hell" advocates.

They have to have sin (e.g., everyone is a sinner) at the centre of
their theology because without that, their religion collapses; what they
are collapses—just a little sooner!

Let their perverseness be their own reaping.

Act 20:29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous
wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.
Act 20:30 Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse
things, to draw away disciples after them.

That **happened** all those years ago; remember, Paul said, "I know."
Resulting in Catholicism through to Protestantism etc., etc.

Till now.

Ah yes, more AI Rosie Dogma. All you are saying here is one giant PKB.
You claim to be giving “good sound Bible teaching” yet you sin daily,
love not the brethren, being totally opposed to the New Commandment that
Jesus the Real Christ spoke, and then defended your actions. Which according
to the word of God is,...
1Jn 3:14-15
14 We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the
brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.
15 Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer
hath eternal life abiding in him.
Not my words, but Gods. Tell us all, how can you, who claims to give good
sound biblical teachings, yet ignores those and similar scriptures be counted
worthy?
Who is it that is poisoning the minds of others?

You know not Love.

--
God is God in all His Being. All the glory is His, for He is all glory.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30 I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

"The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence or proof is to be found."

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: a man full of bluster and bullshit in his
meaninglessness pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

"What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence."

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

"Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."

"But remember this: always, absolutely always, all the glory is the
Lord's and His alone, and anyone who takes any credit for anything, you
know, instantly, he is not what he pretends to be and is a false prophet."

"That light had to bear (bears all things) the darkness for us, but that
light did not ever become darkness."

"You must reach beyond the bible that tells you about Him, and into your
daily life to find Him in Person. He's there."

"What is wrong with Christendom? False understanding based on compromise."

"It is not in man to love his enemies. And if he tries, he is walking in
a lie and trying to raise himself up to the level of God."

Robert

2024-08-29 02:53:20 UTC

If God was sovereign over the believers, then why are you not walking in Love
as He Commanded, toward the brethren? Or are you tacitly admitting that you
are not who you claim to be?

1) As mentioned a half-dozen times already, God does not become
sovereign if and when people obey Him. He even uses people's willful

The idea is that their effort of opposition to the divine will proved to be a
stroke of alliance with it. ... They met together in a council of war against
Christ; unconsciously to themselves they signed a treaty for the promotion of
Christ's glory. ... Our God does not beat down the storms that rise against
Him; He rides upon them; He works through them. [Matheson]
IOW he did not pull puppet strings and force then to do anything as you
assumed.

Awwww, the ever ad homonyms and but Mommy look at what he is doing.
Your failure to understand reasoning, and the scriptures is on you.

John, note the spirit of Satan. CringeRosie and Rob Religion both seek
to establish failure in one another. These ye know-not-love
"love-oozers" are typical of religious worldliness. So much for their
"Oh so holy fucked up morals," eh. :-).
Now, have a look into the daily life at work. When the gossip starts,
what is it all about—finding failure in their neighbour?
You see?
The spirit of the world is everywhere and seeking whom it may devour.
Look at the grand presentation of it in the political arena. Politics is
constantly about finding failure in your neighbour and establishing
yourself in righteousness in the name of "tooth." :-).
Liars.
And what does that remind you of? Exactly, the sinner Christianity lie,
full of sinners trying to establish their own righteousness while
parading the "useful" theology of the righteousness of the Lord.

And all the time MM speaks that he is the only righteous one in the world,
that he does not go to church and associate with believers as they all are
“sinner christians”, yet the hypocrite MM listens to the same pastors on
radio.

Post by In the Name of Jesus
In the Name of Jesus
PS: John, keep reading..

And John, keep in mind the word of God, the Holy Bible. Search it, and see if
MM is in or out of alignment with the Word of God. MM has talked this same
and or similar dogma for 40 years on the Usenet with no converts to his way
of life.

Post by In the Name of Jesus
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Hahahahahahahaha, that is so true! All ChristRose needs to see is he
goes about it in his own way; to see he is a sinner too.

John, notice ol' Robbo avoids the fact, "losing your life," and
salivatingly slithers slinkingly into his own "excellent" contextual
island out in the Robert Religion ocean of "where the hell am I?"

I directly addressed the Lose your life dogma that you were presenting,
directly to you. And that is what AI Rosie was referring to, yet neither of
them responded with any opposing scripture. I was not about to reiterate what
I said, all over again, as he heard it all before yet could not do anything
other than attack a person, just like MM is doing here.

Post by In the Name of Jesus
He avoids "losing your life" because he doesn't know what that is. As
you said, he demonstrated that clearly in the Job post and also Sheriff
in that video. See the next Job post I am about to post.

Here MM lied, cough, without guilt.
He knows what I posted to him as he read it. As well as the scriptural
context. So here again, he attempts to slander as gossip with false
accusations.

MM also does not know what Go is saying in Job, and he does not understand
anything about it other than what was made obvious in the Book. MM also knows
not the time frame of Jobs life in regards to the history of man.

So whatever MM says, take it with a grain of fresh salt.

Post by In the Name of Jesus
I know you are tempted, but have nothing to do with these wankers. They
can only be detrimental to you right now. They seek to steal the truth
for themselves and so do nothing but strive to pollute pearls with their
own swineness, attempting to slam down anything that does not have them
at the centre of fact, reality, and truth. Foul proselytisers, "Twice
the sons of hell" advocates.
They have to have sin (e.g., everyone is a sinner) at the centre of
their theology because without that, their religion collapses; what they
are collapses—just a little sooner!

MM lies about that as well, he knows historically what I believe, and to put
it bluntly, I can be called to account by the Word of God via Jesus the
Christ and the Holy Spirit. I am accountable to God, and not of my own
thinking but his. As I mature in Christ, I grow, setting aside the what is
not right before God, and I learn more of those things that are not pleasing
to him and deal with them by His help. The Heavenly Father IS my father for
it is he that re-birthed me through the Work of His Son Jesus. Even if I live
to be 120 years old I will still be HIS child, and by grace he treats me as
such, as a child of his. In the spiritual sense I am a flea on the back of
eternity, and he fully is aware of that and treats me like an earthy Father
would treat their young ones.

My the Mercies of the Heavenly Father I am yet alive, an when my appointed
time comes then it is I will pass from this life into the fullness of the
spiritual life, thanks to the price that Jesus paid for all those that
believe in Him and walk by the Spirit of God.

BTW, I am ending this post with this message to you, as it was in the Days of
the Acts of the Apostles so it is to be in this day. As the latter rain, the
later outpouring of the Holy Spirit upon men is upon us. Wherein mighty signs
and wonders will be done and shown around the world, as Jesus is restoring
those that have fallen, an also bringing salvation to the masses. All this
being done for these last days before there return of Jesus in the clouds to
gather up all the believers, both who have passed before us as well as us who
are alive, and out bodies will be transformed in a twinkling of an eye, to be
with him, forever.

I know not your state, but I do at the least want to share this with you John
so that you can be prepared and not left behind to face the Great tribulation
that is to follow that Day, for a period of seven years.

May God show you HIS mercy and grace, opening the eyes and ears of your
understanding to Him, and may you be filled with the peace that passes ALL
understanding.

Post by In the Name of Jesus
Let their perverseness be their own reaping.
Act 20:29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous
wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.
Act 20:30 Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse
things, to draw away disciples after them.
That **happened** all those years ago; remember, Paul said, "I know."
Resulting in Catholicism through to Protestantism etc., etc.
Till now.

Ah yes, more AI Rosie Dogma. All you are saying here is one giant PKB.
You claim to be giving “good sound Bible teaching” yet you sin daily,
love not the brethren, being totally opposed to the New Commandment that
Jesus the Real Christ spoke, and then defended your actions. Which according
to the word of God is,...
1Jn 3:14-15
14 We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the
brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.
15 Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer
hath eternal life abiding in him.
Not my words, but Gods. Tell us all, how can you, who claims to give good
sound biblical teachings, yet ignores those and similar scriptures be counted
worthy?
Who is it that is poisoning the minds of others?

You know not Love.

In the Name of Jesus

2024-08-29 09:06:15 UTC

If God was sovereign over the believers, then why are you not walking in Love
as He Commanded, toward the brethren? Or are you tacitly admitting that you
are not who you claim to be?

1) As mentioned a half-dozen times already, God does not become
sovereign if and when people obey Him. He even uses people's willful

The idea is that their effort of opposition to the divine will proved to be a
stroke of alliance with it. ... They met together in a council of war against
Christ; unconsciously to themselves they signed a treaty for the promotion of
Christ's glory. ... Our God does not beat down the storms that rise against
Him; He rides upon them; He works through them. [Matheson]
IOW he did not pull puppet strings and force then to do anything as you
assumed.

Awwww, the ever ad homonyms and but Mommy look at what he is doing.
Your failure to understand reasoning, and the scriptures is on you.

John, note the spirit of Satan. CringeRosie and Rob Religion both seek
to establish failure in one another. These ye know-not-love
"love-oozers" are typical of religious worldliness. So much for their
"Oh so holy fucked up morals," eh. :-).
Now, have a look into the daily life at work. When the gossip starts,
what is it all about—finding failure in their neighbour?
You see?
The spirit of the world is everywhere and seeking whom it may devour.
Look at the grand presentation of it in the political arena. Politics is
constantly about finding failure in your neighbour and establishing
yourself in righteousness in the name of "tooth." :-).
Liars.
And what does that remind you of? Exactly, the sinner Christianity lie,
full of sinners trying to establish their own righteousness while
parading the "useful" theology of the righteousness of the Lord.

Post by In the Name of Jesus
In the Name of Jesus
PS: John, keep reading..

Post by In the Name of Jesus
.

Hahahahahahahaha, that is so true! All ChristRose needs to see is he
goes about it in his own way; to see he is a sinner too.

John, notice ol' Robbo avoids the fact, "losing your life," and
salivatingly slithers slinkingly into his own "excellent" contextual
island out in the Robert Religion ocean of "where the hell am I?"

Here MM lied, cough, without guilt.
He knows what I posted to him as he read it. As well as the scriptural
context. So here again, he attempts to slander as gossip with false
accusations.
MM also does not know what Go is saying in Job, and he does not understand
anything about it other than what was made obvious in the Book.

:-).

So why doesn't Robert Religion tell us then? :-). Isn't that a big
mystery! :-).

Smoke and mirrors and it never ends.

Robert Religion sinner Christianity is drenched in his waffle and crap
above and below, yet the he cannot answer the simple question. All he
has is his "failure neighbour" self-righteous dogma.

The spirit of Satan.

If it walks like a dog and barks like a dog and looks like a dog and
everyone has got one in the dog training school, then you can be
reasonably comfortable in the fact that it is a dog. :-).

What did Job see in himself, Robert?

He won't be able to answer that question, but I will tell you. No more
pearls for him for the swine.

I feel sorry for Robert, but for years and years he has had the truth
placed directly in front of him, and all...he...has...ever...done and
continues to do is simply wipe his ass on it because it does not come in
his image, the stinking image of sinner Christianity.

He is worse than the atheists!

Post by Robert
I learn more of those things that are not pleasing to him and deal
with them by His help.

He deals with them! :-). What a wanker!

Not pleasing to him? So, the Lord Jesus is not his Lord (ye olde
revolving door, the "mistake" and "piece of stupid" compromise
religion). He does not follow the Lord. Note: his "follow" is very
different to the Lord's "follow."

Robert (our sinner Christianity example) does his own thing, worshipping
himself with his bible. And look, even more telling, Robert deals with
his wrong with "God's help???" What a sick joke!

You see, extremely deluded and so typical of "me save myself" sinner
Christianity!

Now, a deeper reality (crucial): he does things that are not pleasing to
the Lord and cleans himself up with the Lord as his little helper???!!!
No idea...none...he isn't the least bit aware that he is blind. There is
no log in his eye because he doesn't see any hindrance to his way; he
doesn't see a log in his eye! That takes revelation from the Lord
Himself directly (not an external bible) into a person's life in the
presence of His Holy Spirit.

Same as Job in the beginning, same as us all in the beginning. That is
very, very important (crucial), John.

What did Job see in himself? Meditate on that.

In the Name of Jesus

Post by Robert
MM also knows
not the time frame of Jobs life in regards to the history of man.
So whatever MM says, take it with a grain of fresh salt.

MM lies about that as well, he knows historically what I believe, and to put
it bluntly, I can be called to account by the Word of God via Jesus the
Christ and the Holy Spirit. I am accountable to God, and not of my own
thinking but his. As I mature in Christ, I grow, setting aside the what is
not right before God, and I learn more of those things that are not pleasing
to him and deal with them by His help. The Heavenly Father IS my father for
it is he that re-birthed me through the Work of His Son Jesus. Even if I live
to be 120 years old I will still be HIS child, and by grace he treats me as
such, as a child of his. In the spiritual sense I am a flea on the back of
eternity, and he fully is aware of that and treats me like an earthy Father
would treat their young ones.
My the Mercies of the Heavenly Father I am yet alive, an when my appointed
time comes then it is I will pass from this life into the fullness of the
spiritual life, thanks to the price that Jesus paid for all those that
believe in Him and walk by the Spirit of God.
BTW, I am ending this post with this message to you, as it was in the Days of
the Acts of the Apostles so it is to be in this day. As the latter rain, the
later outpouring of the Holy Spirit upon men is upon us. Wherein mighty signs
and wonders will be done and shown around the world, as Jesus is restoring
those that have fallen, an also bringing salvation to the masses. All this
being done for these last days before there return of Jesus in the clouds to
gather up all the believers, both who have passed before us as well as us who
are alive, and out bodies will be transformed in a twinkling of an eye, to be
with him, forever.
I know not your state, but I do at the least want to share this with you John
so that you can be prepared and not left behind to face the Great tribulation
that is to follow that Day, for a period of seven years.
May God show you HIS mercy and grace, opening the eyes and ears of your
understanding to Him, and may you be filled with the peace that passes ALL
understanding.

Ah yes, more AI Rosie Dogma. All you are saying here is one giant PKB.
You claim to be giving “good sound Bible teaching” yet you sin daily,
love not the brethren, being totally opposed to the New Commandment that
Jesus the Real Christ spoke, and then defended your actions. Which according
to the word of God is,...
1Jn 3:14-15
14 We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the
brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.
15 Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer
hath eternal life abiding in him.
Not my words, but Gods. Tell us all, how can you, who claims to give good
sound biblical teachings, yet ignores those and similar scriptures be counted
worthy?
Who is it that is poisoning the minds of others?

You know not Love.

Robert

2024-08-29 16:56:57 UTC

If God was sovereign over the believers, then why are you not walking in
Love
as He Commanded, toward the brethren? Or are you tacitly admitting that
you are not who you claim to be?

1) As mentioned a half-dozen times already, God does not become
sovereign if and when people obey Him. He even uses people's willful

None of which is an example of being Sovereign.
Perhaps because of your inability to define the word, you have no
understanding or the word.
There was a reason for asking you to define it, without a definition there
is no understanding, and none of the scripture you quote backs up your
assertions.

The idea is that their effort of opposition to the divine will proved to
be a stroke of alliance with it. ... They met together in a council of war
against
Christ; unconsciously to themselves they signed a treaty for the promotion
of Christ's glory. ... Our God does not beat down the storms that rise
against Him; He rides upon them; He works through them. [Matheson]
IOW he did not pull puppet strings and force then to do anything as you
assumed.

Awwww, the ever ad homonyms and but Mommy look at what he is doing.
Your failure to understand reasoning, and the scriptures is on you.

John, note the spirit of Satan. CringeRosie and Rob Religion both seek
to establish failure in one another. These ye know-not-love
"love-oozers" are typical of religious worldliness. So much for their
"Oh so holy fucked up morals," eh. :-).
Now, have a look into the daily life at work. When the gossip starts,
what is it all about—finding failure in their neighbour?
You see?
The spirit of the world is everywhere and seeking whom it may devour.
Look at the grand presentation of it in the political arena. Politics is
constantly about finding failure in your neighbour and establishing
yourself in righteousness in the name of "tooth." :-).
Liars.
And what does that remind you of? Exactly, the sinner Christianity lie,
full of sinners trying to establish their own righteousness while
parading the "useful" theology of the righteousness of the Lord.

Post by In the Name of Jesus
In the Name of Jesus
PS: John, keep reading..

Post by In the Name of Jesus
.

Hahahahahahahaha, that is so true! All ChristRose needs to see is he
goes about it in his own way; to see he is a sinner too.

John, notice ol' Robbo avoids the fact, "losing your life," and
salivatingly slithers slinkingly into his own "excellent" contextual
island out in the Robert Religion ocean of "where the hell am I?"

Here MM lied, cough, without guilt.
He knows what I posted to him as he read it. As well as the scriptural
context. So here again, he attempts to slander as gossip with false
accusations.
MM also does not know what God is saying in Job, and he does not understand
anything about it other than what was made obvious in the Book.
-).

So why doesn't Robert Religion tell us then? :-). Isn't that a big
mystery! :-).

No mystery, you were given a chance to clarify what you said and reconsider
the options.
To think, to ponder, to meditate upon the Word of God.

Post by In the Name of Jesus
Smoke and mirrors and it never ends.
Robert Religion sinner Christianity is drenched in his waffle and crap
above and below, yet the he cannot answer the simple question. All he
has is his "failure neighbour" self-righteous dogma.

There again you reference yourself as a failure, something I have never
spoken, internally or externally.

Post by In the Name of Jesus
The spirit of Satan.
If it walks like a dog and barks like a dog and looks like a dog and
everyone has got one in the dog training school, then you can be
reasonably comfortable in the fact that it is a dog. :-).

Again with the ad-homonyms? Does it ever cease?

Post by In the Name of Jesus
What did Job see in himself, Robert?
He won't be able to answer that question, but I will tell you. No more
pearls for him for the swine.

That was not the point of the book. That was what I pointed out to you at the
fore.
Here is the point.

Job 1:6-12

6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before
the LORD, and Satan came also among them.

7 And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the
LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and
down in it.

8 And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that
there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that
feareth God, and escheweth evil?

9 Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, Doth Job fear God for nought?

10 Hast not thou made an hedge about him, and about his house, and about all
that he hath on every side? thou hast blessed the work of his hands, and his
substance is increased in the land.

11 But put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath, and he will
curse thee to thy face.

12 And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath is in thy power;
only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the
presence of the LORD.

" that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one
that feareth God, and escheweth evil?” "But put forth thine hand now, and
touch all that he hath, and he will curse thee to thy face.”

Did he ever? Throughout all the trials and tribulations did Job ever fall
away? How did the book end up? Who was correct, God, or Satan? And at the end
did not God repay Job double for all he went through?

Job never went through all of this just to learn one thing about himself, the
end of the book was not dependent on Job realizing any flaw and then
correcting it, it ended when Satan saw that no matter what was thrown at Job,
Job never ever cursed God. Was not God correct in His assessment of Job?

That one can learn things when going through trials and tribulations is a
blessing, a deeper understanding, God causes everything to work together for
our good, if we walk with him, and Job did. The men who gave him false
counseling via the thoughts of Satan in their heads had to accept their
errors, and seek forgiveness from Job. For they wronged him.

Why did you miss all that?

Post by In the Name of Jesus
I feel sorry for Robert, but for years and years he has had the truth
placed directly in front of him, and all...he...has...ever...done and
continues to do is simply wipe his ass on it because it does not come in
his image, the stinking image of sinner Christianity.
He is worse than the atheists!

I am no better than they, except by the grace and mercy of God I too would
have remained a sinner.

For you to look down upon them is a shame. While they may live in error, even
willfully, they still are the creation of God and should be respected as
such.

Post by Robert
I learn more of those things that are not pleasing to him and deal
with them by His help.

He deals with them! :-). What a wanker!

Yes, put them to death, and that is something a Believer IS to do. It does
not just disappear, one must deal with their flaws via the renewal of the
mind. “For to be carnally minded is death"

Post by In the Name of Jesus
Not pleasing to him? So, the Lord Jesus is not his Lord (ye olde
revolving door, the "mistake" and "piece of stupid" compromise
religion). He does not follow the Lord. Note: his "follow" is very
different to the Lord's "follow."

Not at all, read about the lives of the disciples of Jesus.

Post by In the Name of Jesus
Robert (our sinner Christianity example) does his own thing, worshipping
himself with his bible. And look, even more telling, Robert deals with
his wrong with "God's help???" What a sick joke!

Well, it is for certain that Satan has never helped you one bit.

Post by In the Name of Jesus
You see, extremely deluded and so typical of "me save myself" sinner
Christianity!

More false aspersions from the weak.

Post by In the Name of Jesus
Now, a deeper reality (crucial): he does things that are not pleasing to
the Lord and cleans himself up with the Lord as his little helper???!!!
No idea...none...he isn't the least bit aware that he is blind. There is
no log in his eye because he doesn't see any hindrance to his way; he
doesn't see a log in his eye! That takes revelation from the Lord
Himself directly (not an external bible) into a person's life in the
presence of His Holy Spirit.
Same as Job in the beginning, same as us all in the beginning. That is
very, very important (crucial), John.

Did not God clearly say that Job was perfect and righteous? Out of ignorance
you just placed me in the same class as he.

Post by In the Name of Jesus
What did Job see in himself? Meditate on that.

You, without understanding tell others to “lose themselves”, IOW
something that THEY have to do. Yet you flame me for dealing with my issues
when shown. Many religions tell people to “lose themselves” to yield
themselves so that their minds can become ‘free’. You proclaim the same
mantra. In yoga, you are to empty yourself, your mind, etc. Which then satan
will take full advantage of the situations as you open your mind to whatever
comes in, same with all such religious dogma.

Time for you to study the Word of God and yield yourself to him and renew
your mind in Him.

Post by In the Name of Jesus
In the Name of Jesus

Post by Robert
MM also knows
not the time frame of Jobs life in regards to the history of man.
So whatever MM says, take it with a grain of fresh salt.

MM lies about that as well, he knows historically what I believe, and to put
it bluntly, I can be called to account by the Word of God via Jesus the
Christ and the Holy Spirit. I am accountable to God, and not of my own
thinking but his. As I mature in Christ, I grow, setting aside the what is
not right before God, and I learn more of those things that are not pleasing
to him and deal with them by His help. The Heavenly Father IS my father for
it is he that re-birthed me through the Work of His Son Jesus. Even if I live
to be 120 years old I will still be HIS child, and by grace he treats me as
such, as a child of his. In the spiritual sense I am a flea on the back of
eternity, and he fully is aware of that and treats me like an earthy Father
would treat their young ones.
My the Mercies of the Heavenly Father I am yet alive, an when my appointed
time comes then it is I will pass from this life into the fullness of the
spiritual life, thanks to the price that Jesus paid for all those that
believe in Him and walk by the Spirit of God.
BTW, I am ending this post with this message to you, as it was in the Days of
the Acts of the Apostles so it is to be in this day. As the latter rain, the
later outpouring of the Holy Spirit upon men is upon us. Wherein mighty signs
and wonders will be done and shown around the world, as Jesus is restoring
those that have fallen, an also bringing salvation to the masses. All this
being done for these last days before there return of Jesus in the clouds to
gather up all the believers, both who have passed before us as well as us who
are alive, and out bodies will be transformed in a twinkling of an eye, to be
with him, forever.
I know not your state, but I do at the least want to share this with you John
so that you can be prepared and not left behind to face the Great tribulation
that is to follow that Day, for a period of seven years.
May God show you HIS mercy and grace, opening the eyes and ears of your
understanding to Him, and may you be filled with the peace that passes ALL
understanding.

Ah yes, more AI Rosie Dogma. All you are saying here is one giant PKB.
You claim to be giving “good sound Bible teaching” yet you sin daily,
love not the brethren, being totally opposed to the New Commandment that
Jesus the Real Christ spoke, and then defended your actions. Which according
to the word of God is,...
1Jn 3:14-15
14 We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the
brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.
15 Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer
hath eternal life abiding in him.
Not my words, but Gods. Tell us all, how can you, who claims to give good
sound biblical teachings, yet ignores those and similar scriptures be counted
worthy?
Who is it that is poisoning the minds of others?

You know not Love.

In the Name of Jesus

2024-08-30 01:16:31 UTC

(snip)

Post by Robert
MM also does not know what God is saying in Job, and he does not understand
anything about it other than what was made obvious in the Book.

:-).
So why doesn't Robert Religion tell us then? :-). Isn't that a big
mystery! :-).

No mystery, you were given a chance to clarify what you said and reconsider
the options.
To think, to ponder, to meditate upon the Word of God.

:-).

And, of course, I was given the chance by Robert (thanks Bob), but I
obviously failed miserably. :-).

There again you reference yourself as a failure, something I have never
spoken, internally or externally.

He can't see himself.

Again with the ad-homonyms? Does it ever cease?

A dog is a dog, Bob.

Post by In the Name of Jesus
What did Job see in himself, Robert?

Where is this deep, deep Robert understanding?

You see?

[crickets]

Where the rubber meets the road they are never there.

Post by In the Name of Jesus
He won't be able to answer that question, but I will tell you. No more
pearls for him for the swine.

That was not the point of the book. That was what I pointed out to you at the
fore.

You see, Robert Religion is scripture truth. :-).

Post by Robert
Here is the point.
Job 1:6-12
6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before
the LORD, and Satan came also among them.
7 And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the
LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and
down in it.
8 And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that
there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that
feareth God, and escheweth evil?
9 Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, Doth Job fear God for nought?
10 Hast not thou made an hedge about him, and about his house, and about all
that he hath on every side? thou hast blessed the work of his hands, and his
substance is increased in the land.
11 But put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath, and he will
curse thee to thy face.
12 And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath is in thy power;
only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the
presence of the LORD.
" that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one
that feareth God, and escheweth evil?” "But put forth thine hand now, and
touch all that he hath, and he will curse thee to thy face.”

John, it is not about good verses evil. Remember that. There is
something much more powerful going on underneath.

Post by Robert
Did he ever? Throughout all the trials and tribulations did Job ever fall
away? How did the book end up? Who was correct, God, or Satan? And at the end
did not God repay Job double for all he went through?

At times one needs a reliable antagonist (antichrist). :-).

You see how he doesn't see?

Job was fallen, and the Lord showed him how in the end but not through
what is right and what is wrong (law, legalism). Remember, the book of
Job is the future looking back; it is not contemporary. All these people
know is "good" versus "evil" and who is, in their eyes, and who isn't.
Such is the delusion.

God is not about good verses evil.

Now, back to Job, and why he repented in dust and ashes and abhorred
himself.

Robert doesn't know because he has not lost his life. Was the Lord
equivocal about that requirement?

Post by Robert
Job never went through all of this just to learn one thing about himself, the
end of the book was not dependent on Job realizing any flaw and then
correcting it, it ended when Satan saw that no matter what was thrown at Job,
Job never ever cursed God. Was not God correct in His assessment of Job?

1) God took Job through what he went through to learn of Him and himself.

2) No one said anything about Job realising any flaw and then correcting
himself (an abomination); except Robert, that is.

3) God is always right, but not according to the adjudication of Robert
Religion and his own scripture presiding.

4) Do you see the manipulation in his words?

Post by Robert
That one can learn things when going through trials and tribulations is a
blessing, a deeper understanding, God causes everything to work together for
our good, if we walk with him, and Job did. The men who gave him false
counseling via the thoughts of Satan in their heads had to accept their
errors, and seek forgiveness from Job. For they wronged him.

They wronged God.

Job 42:7 And it was so, that after the LORD had spoken these words unto
Job, the LORD said to Eliphaz the Temanite, My wrath is kindled against
thee, and against thy two friends: for ye have not spoken of me the
thing that is right, as my servant Job hath.

You see how Robert's thinking is carnally-based (self); the sensorial
experience of fact, reality, and truth revolves around his perception.

One could argue, "Well, what else can it be, as we are in fact sensorial
beings?" "We are what we are, right?" Not quite: we need to sense
another's presence, God's presence, to free us from the confines of
ourselves—self-worship.

Such was the case with Job too.

Post by Robert
Why did you miss all that?

My failure! :-). Faaaaaaiiiiiiillllllluuuuurrrrrreeee, and drowning in
the obliteration of Robert Religion's own powerful scripture truth! :-))).

Remember, he can't see himself and he can't be but the blind spirit he is.

Jeremiah 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately
wicked: who can know it?

God revealed something to Job that meant everything.

What did Job see in himself?

Our resident antichrist can sit in his own sewer, but the Lord will
reveal that to you if you push through the darkness. Mind you, in what I
am writing, the Lord is almost all but giving the answer to the question
outright!

I am no better than they, except by the grace and mercy of God I too would
have remained a sinner.

You still are, Buddy, and it has nothing to do with your legalism religion.

Post by Robert
For you to look down upon them is a shame.

Another failure according to our King of Religion. :-).

Post by Robert
While they may live in error, even
willfully, they still are the creation of God and should be respected as
such.

Slithery is slithering slitheringly again. :-).

You see, all he has is failure for me, but he'll say, "I never called
you a failure." :-). Obviously, I am not worthy. :-). Do you see the
flip side, though, the self-worship, his self-anointing righteousness
display from on his high?

Do you see how he doesn't see himself? Nothing is seen in the darkness,
but to walk into the light, one has to be exposed. That is what they
hate. Job girded himself and entered the light.

Only the strong and courageous enter the promised land. "A piece of dirt
is not the promised land; that is only a reflection. The promised land
is knowing Me, says the Lord."

Moving on. Now, if you believe that in man is some goodness, how then
can you come into the light when you think you already have light in
you? That is why Robert is holding up Job, for in holding Job up, he is
really holding himself up in the essence of what he thinks he is.

Post by Robert
I learn more of those things that are not pleasing to him and deal
with them by His help.

He deals with them! :-). What a wanker!

Yes, put them to death, and that is something a Believer IS to do. It does
not just disappear, one must deal with their flaws via the renewal of the
mind. “For to be carnally minded is death"

You see. Self-worship and blindness. No man can raise himself up.

Not at all, read about the lives of the disciples of Jesus.

Robert's "follow (sinner Christianity)" is very different to the Lord's
"follow." The Lord's "follow" requires you to lose your life, whereas
these snakes merely see that as a road of compromise—self works and
God's help.

Well, it is for certain that Satan has never helped you one bit.

Post by In the Name of Jesus
You see, extremely deluded and so typical of "me save myself" sinner
Christianity!

More false aspersions from the weak.

Did not God clearly say that Job was perfect and righteous? Out of ignorance
you just placed me in the same class as he.

Robert is confused by his lust for his fallen nature. God prophesied
Job's future, the story is told in retrospect.

The point is that the witness of Job tells the story of the sinner
coming to redemption through God, our Messiah, but not through right and
wrong, but through the death of what you are.

Recall that Job is of the sin of Adam; like all men, he gave offerings
for himself as well as for his children. We might visit that later. In
other words, while it is a "good" intention of Job to make sacrifices
for his children—and that is at the centre of the question of Job (the
one being asked)—how can a man give a sacrifice for another man? Only
One is worthy of that, and we both know who that Glorious and Majestic
Lord is! :-).

Remember, Job in the end was a very different Job than the Job from the
beginning.

Post by In the Name of Jesus
What did Job see in himself? Meditate on that.

You see, Robert hasn't got a clue; all he has is his worldly pop
psychology. Why Robert hasn't got a clue is ultimately why Job repented
in dust and ashes and abhorred himself.

Post by Robert
Time for you to study the Word of God and yield yourself to him and renew
your mind in Him.

Time for works salvation in my failure to be like Robert! :-). Time for
that and a latte. :-).

All that waffle goes nowhere for Robert. He can't answer the simple
question: What did Job see in himself? You don't repent in dust and
ashes and abhor yourself for nothing.

Remember: Bunyan: "Ignorance" at the gate. No certificate. "I feel in my
deepest heart that I am a subject of this kingdom."

Jeremiah 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately
wicked: who can know it?

Who is that man's heart deceiving?

In the Name of Jesus
--
God is God in all His Being. All the glory is His, for He is all glory.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30 I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

"The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence or proof is to be found."

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: a man full of bluster and bullshit in his
meaninglessness pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

"What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence."

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

"Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."

"But remember this: always, absolutely always, all the glory is the
Lord's and His alone, and anyone who takes any credit for anything, you
know, instantly, he is not what he pretends to be and is a false prophet."

"That light had to bear (bears all things) the darkness for us, but that
light did not ever become darkness."

"You must reach beyond the bible that tells you about Him, and into your
daily life to find Him in Person. He's there."

"What is wrong with Christendom? False understanding based on compromise."

"It is not in man to love his enemies. And if he tries, he is walking in
a lie and trying to raise himself up to the level of God."

Robert

2024-08-30 03:45:01 UTC

Post by In the Name of Jesus
(snip)

Post by Robert
MM also does not know what God is saying in Job, and he does not understand
anything about it other than what was made obvious in the Book.
-).

So why doesn't Robert Religion tell us then? :-). Isn't that a big
mystery! :-).

No mystery, you were given a chance to clarify what you said and reconsider
the options.
To think, to ponder, to meditate upon the Word of God.
-).

And, of course, I was given the chance by Robert (thanks Bob), but I
obviously failed miserably. :-).

It was your choice.

There again you reference yourself as a failure, something I have never
spoken, internally or externally.

He can't see himself.

What has my inward awareness have to do with you?
Nothing.

Again with the ad-homonyms? Does it ever cease?

A dog is a dog, Bob.

Post by In the Name of Jesus
What did Job see in himself, Robert?

Where is this deep, deep Robert understanding?
You see?
[crickets]

You never addressed the original issue and set up a straw horse, one that you
cannot ride.

Post by In the Name of Jesus
Where the rubber meets the road they are never there.

Post by In the Name of Jesus
He won't be able to answer that question, but I will tell you. No more
pearls for him for the swine.

That was not the point of the book. That was what I pointed out to you at
the fore.

You see, Robert Religion is scripture truth. :-).

All you have is nonsense?
Trolling, quips.

John, it is not about good verses evil. Remember that. There is
something much more powerful going on underneath.

I don’t know who he is or anything about him except your references about a
“John”.
It does not matter what he is good or not good at, the Lord knows what is
best for him, and he can speak directly to John, and John can have his own
experiential relationship with God, independent of you or I.
Which is as it should be.

Post by Robert
Did he ever? Throughout all the trials and tribulations did Job ever fall
away? How did the book end up? Who was correct, God, or Satan? And at the
end did not God repay Job double for all he went through?

At times one needs a reliable antagonist (antichrist). :-).

No one needs it, ever. Life operates entirely satisfactory by all those who
never heard of you and your dogma’s.

Post by In the Name of Jesus
You see how he doesn't see?
Job was fallen, and the Lord showed him how in the end but not through
what is right and what is wrong (law, legalism). Remember, the book of
Job is the future looking back; it is not contemporary. All these people
know is "good" versus "evil" and who is, in their eyes, and who isn't.
Such is the delusion.

There was no covenant of Law such as Given to the Israelites when Job lived.
The only covenants given by God was those given to Noah. Therefore there was
no law or legalism given to man to point out sin and death as did the law
covenant. Like Abram, so was Job, so was Isaac, Joseph, etc. The Lord did not
have to point out to Job who he was, he already knew, made obvious by the
fact that he made sacrifices to God for himself, and also did so for His
children, the same sacrifices as did Abel and all the Godly since him.

The book of Job is not nor was it the future. It was still in the age of Gods
Grace. He was perfect in the eyes of God, as was Abram. However, none of them
who believed in God and followed him were empowered by the Holy Spirit until
after the resurrection of Jesus the Messiah.

Those in the future, who dwell in the Millennial raging of the King Jesus the
Messiah for 1000 years, will all live under the autocracy of King Jesus who
rules with a Rod of Iron. Where an entirely now temple design, as described
in Ezekiel will be built, where the Feasts will be celebrated, and
sacrificial offerings be made, but for different reasons and understandings.

All these things are to be found in the Scriptures in greater detail. You
really should check it out sometime.

Post by In the Name of Jesus
God is not about good verses evil.
Now, back to Job, and why he repented in dust and ashes and abhorred
himself.

Because he loved His God and sought to please Him. And like I stated before,
when one goes through trials and tribulations they, if humble, will learn and
improve. Do not forget, repentance that men do is a 180 degree turn around,
rejecting the old way and changing their pattern and reasons. For the man, it
is an act or man.

Post by In the Name of Jesus
Robert doesn't know because he has not lost his life. Was the Lord
equivocal about that requirement?

Yes, he described the full truth of what he said in the last five or so words
of that verse, something that neither you or AI Rosie has come to grips with.

Post by Robert
Job never went through all of this just to learn one thing about himself,
the end of the book was not dependent on Job realizing any flaw and then
correcting it, it ended when Satan saw that no matter what was thrown at Job,
Job never ever cursed God. Was not God correct in His assessment of Job?

1) God took Job through what he went through to learn of Him and himself.

Did you not read the conversation between God an Satan at the beginning, and
the ensuing conversations between them to see the why’s and what for’s?

Did you not read all the other ensuing conversations that went on throughout
the book?

Post by In the Name of Jesus
2) No one said anything about Job realising any flaw and then correcting
himself (an abomination); except Robert, that is.

Then what was it that Job repented of, that you spoke of. You can’t speak
honestly out of both sides of your mouth. ;)

Post by In the Name of Jesus
3) God is always right, but not according to the adjudication of Robert
Religion and his own scripture presiding.

You wrote all this just to say this? If you are so perfect that why have you
not walked the walk of Enoch?

Post by In the Name of Jesus
4) Do you see the manipulation in his words?

If you speak this to John, then He would have to read the book of Job for
himself, while asking God for the understanding of it all. Then once
understanding it, as God would have it, then it is that he would be in the
proper mindset to answer that manipulative question.

Job 42:8 Therefore take unto you now seven bullocks and seven rams, and go to
my servant Job, and offer up for yourselves a burnt offering; and my servant
Job shall pray for you: for him will I accept: lest I deal with you after
your folly, in that ye have not spoken of me the thing which is right, like
my servant Job.

Why did God say this must be done? And jut who is God’s servant? And was
not the forgiveness dependent upon the Actions of Job?

Post by In the Name of Jesus
You see how Robert's thinking is carnally-based (self); the sensorial
experience of fact, reality, and truth revolves around his perception.
One could argue, "Well, what else can it be, as we are in fact sensorial
beings?" "We are what we are, right?" Not quite: we need to sense
another's presence, God's presence, to free us from the confines of
ourselves—self-worship.
Such was the case with Job too.

Yet God sided with Job, not the accusers.

Post by Robert
Why did you miss all that?

My failure! :-). Faaaaaaiiiiiiillllllluuuuurrrrrreeee, and drowning in
the obliteration of Robert Religion's own powerful scripture truth! :-))).
Remember, he can't see himself and he can't be but the blind spirit he is.
Jeremiah 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately
wicked: who can know it?
God revealed something to Job that meant everything.
What did Job see in himself?
Our resident antichrist can sit in his own sewer, but the Lord will
reveal that to you if you push through the darkness. Mind you, in what I
am writing, the Lord is almost all but giving the answer to the question
outright!

Ever are you the accuser of the brethren.

I am no better than they, except by the grace and mercy of God I too would
have remained a sinner.

You still are, Buddy, and it has nothing to do with your legalism religion.

Again you err. Like totally.

Post by Robert
For you to look down upon them is a shame.

Another failure according to our King of Religion. :-).

Just can’t help yourself.

Post by Robert
While they may live in error, even
willfully, they still are the creation of God
and should be respected as such.

Slithery is slithering slitheringly again. :-).
You see, all he has is failure for me, but he'll say, "I never called
you a failure." :-). Obviously, I am not worthy. :-). Do you see the
flip side, though, the self-worship, his self-anointing righteousness
display from on his high?
Do you see how he doesn't see himself? Nothing is seen in the darkness,
but to walk into the light, one has to be exposed. That is what they
hate. Job girded himself and entered the light.
Only the strong and courageous enter the promised land. "A piece of dirt
is not the promised land; that is only a reflection. The promised land
is knowing Me, says the Lord."
Moving on. Now, if you believe that in man is some goodness, how then
can you come into the light when you think you already have light in
you? That is why Robert is holding up Job, for in holding Job up, he is
really holding himself up in the essence of what he thinks he is.

Job walked in the light, and God was happy to say so,...

Job 1:8And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job,
that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one
that feareth God, and escheweth evil?

God’s word is truth. Had you read the book, from the beginning and
meditated upon it instead of being taught by some teacher on the radio or on
YouTube then you might have had a chance of understanding.

Post by Robert
I learn more of those things that are not pleasing to him and deal
with them by His help.

He deals with them! :-). What a wanker!

Yes, put them to death, and that is something a Believer IS to do. It does
not just disappear, one must deal with their flaws via the renewal of the
mind. “For to be carnally minded is death"

You see. Self-worship and blindness. No man can raise himself up.

“Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature?” (Mat
6:27)

Not at all, read about the lives of the disciples of Jesus.

Well, it is for certain that Satan has never helped you one bit.

Post by In the Name of Jesus
You see, extremely deluded and so typical of "me save myself" sinner
Christianity!

More false aspersions from the weak.

Did not God clearly say that Job was perfect and righteous? Out of ignorance
you just placed me in the same class as he.

Robert is confused by his lust for his fallen nature. God prophesied
Job's future, the story is told in retrospect.
The point is that the witness of Job tells the story of the sinner
coming to redemption through [NOTE WELL### The SON OF GOD,NOT the Heavenly Father] God, our Messiah, but not through right and wrong, but through the death

of what you are.

“And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that
there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that
feareth God, and escheweth evil?” (Job 1:8)

“Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my
Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father,
and your Father; and to my God, and your God.” (Jhn 20:17)

Post by In the Name of Jesus
Recall that Job is of the sin of Adam; like all men, he gave offerings
for himself as well as for his children. We might visit that later. In
other words, while it is a "good" intention of Job to make sacrifices
for his children—and that is at the centre of the question of Job (the
one being asked)—how can a man give a sacrifice for another man? Only
One is worthy of that, and we both know who that Glorious and Majestic
Lord is! :-).

All men did not sacrifice to God, and some that did, sacrificed the way they
thought best, like Cain.

Post by In the Name of Jesus
Remember, Job in the end was a very different Job than the Job from the
beginning.

Was he more perfect? More Righteous? Was God more proud of him than he was?

Post by In the Name of Jesus
What did Job see in himself? Meditate on that.

You see, Robert hasn't got a clue; all he has is his worldly pop
psychology. Why Robert hasn't got a clue is ultimately why Job repented
in dust and ashes and abhorred himself.

Well John, I have had enough of his ever circular arguments of me good, you
bad.
We all have to stand before God one day for Judgment. He alone can do that.
For he knows who he justified and those that he did not.

I stand on the Word of God, the very scriptures that MM tossed many moons ago
as he had no need for them. I did, and still do, many decades later, and I
still learn and see more each day. Gods wisdom and knowledge is infinite.

Post by Robert
Time for you to study the Word of God and yield yourself to him and renew
your mind in Him.

In the Name of Jesus

2024-08-30 08:37:28 UTC

Okay, I am not going to spend hours and hours, like I have in the past,
addressing Robert Religion's endless spin in carnal ignorance and
deluded manipulation only for him to take a dump on what is said.

He was told; no more pearls for swine. I see "swine" as people who have
no compunction or intention whatsoever to want to change despite being
shown the truth, time and time again; that is our Robert Religion. I
wouldn't even be engaging with him now if it wasn't for your benefit.

I've done my time, and a lot of it, and I did no crime! :-).

Now, back to the point.

Post by In the Name of Jesus
Now, back to Job, and why he repented in dust and ashes and abhorred
himself.

Because he loved His God and sought to please Him.

No, no, no. Job was seeking to please himself, first and foremost, and
right from the beginning, he was caught in his own righteousness. Second
place is not good enough for God or for our well-being.

Robert also wants his shallow humanistic moral religion to suffice for
truth, and so does ChristRose, unfortunately. Remember, all the glory is
the Lord's, and now you see what Robert's glorying in.

Job had to repent in dust and ashes and abhorred himself for good
reason. Without the Lord, though, he could not have ever perceived it.
So, whose glory is it?

Post by Robert
And like I stated before, when one goes through trials and
tribulations they, if humble, will learn and improve. Do not forget,
repentance that men do is a 180 degree turn around, rejecting the old
way and changing their pattern and reasons. For the man, it
is an act or man.

The shallow pop religion psychology sinner Christianity is not worth a
dime! When I listen to the amount of drivel religious humanism out
there, it just makes me want to groan and throw up!

You see, Robert doesn't have a clue because he has not lost his life. No
man can be born again without having lost his life.

So, we are back to the same simple thing: what did Job see in himself?

There is a very good reason why a person comes to the place where the
Lord says, "Put yourself and your bible religion down!" And our Job is
the golden example of that!

This is the biggest cue the Lord has given...

"All that waffle goes nowhere for Robert. He can't answer the simple
question: What did Job see in himself? You don't repent in dust and
ashes and abhor yourself for nothing.

Remember: Bunyan: "Ignorance" at the gate. No certificate. "I feel in my
deepest heart that I am a subject of this kingdom."

Jeremiah 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately
wicked: who can know it?

Who is that man's heart deceiving?"

In the Name of Jesus
--
God is God in all His Being. All the glory is His, for He is all glory.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30 I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

"The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence or proof is to be found."

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: a man full of bluster and bullshit in his
meaninglessness pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

"What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence."

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

"Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."

"But remember this: always, absolutely always, all the glory is the
Lord's and His alone, and anyone who takes any credit for anything, you
know, instantly, he is not what he pretends to be and is a false prophet."

"That light had to bear (bears all things) the darkness for us, but that
light did not ever become darkness."

"You must reach beyond the bible that tells you about Him, and into your
daily life to find Him in Person. He's there."

"What is wrong with Christendom? False understanding based on compromise."

"It is not in man to love his enemies. And if he tries, he is walking in
a lie and trying to raise himself up to the level of God."

Robert

2024-08-30 16:21:04 UTC

Post by In the Name of Jesus
Okay, I am not going to spend hours and hours, like I have in the past,
addressing Robert Religion's endless spin in carnal ignorance and
deluded manipulation only for him to take a dump on what is said.
He was told; no more pearls for swine. I see "swine" as people who have
no compunction or intention whatsoever to want to change despite being
shown the truth, time and time again; that is our Robert Religion. I
wouldn't even be engaging with him now if it wasn't for your benefit.
I've done my time, and a lot of it, and I did no crime! :-).
Now, back to the point.

Post by In the Name of Jesus
Now, back to Job, and why he repented in dust and ashes and abhorred
himself.

Because he loved His God and sought to please Him.

No, no, no. Job was seeking to please himself, first and foremost, and
right from the beginning, he was caught in his own righteousness. Second
place is not good enough for God or for our well-being.

You will not find support for that in scripture.

Post by In the Name of Jesus
Robert also wants his shallow humanistic moral religion to suffice for
truth, and so does ChristRose, unfortunately. Remember, all the glory is
the Lord's, and now you see what Robert's glorying in.
Job had to repent in dust and ashes and abhorred himself for good
reason. Without the Lord, though, he could not have ever perceived it.
So, whose glory is it?

You did not state the reason, and it had nothing to do with his worldly
goods.
John, MM cares not what the word teaches, he cares only about him and his
self righteous quips and personal dogma’s. He does NOT represent the
lifestyle that Jesus seeks in those that follow him. Sad to say, what true.

Regarding the teachings of MM and all those like him the scriptures speak,
saying.....

“There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are
the ways of death.” (Pro 14:12)

Your lord or master might say that, But the Heavenly Father says....

“Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be
ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.” (2Ti 2:15)

“I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present
your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your
reasonable service. And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed
by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and
acceptable, and perfect, will of God.” (Rom 12:1-2)

Post by In the Name of Jesus
This is the biggest cue the Lord has given...
"All that waffle goes nowhere for Robert. He can't answer the simple
question: What did Job see in himself? You don't repent in dust and
ashes and abhor yourself for nothing.

Jobs problem was that he spoke without knowledge, and by doing so he dummied
down the wisdom of God through his own ignorance, and when the creator of all
things asked him about how he did it, and why he did each and everything,
while going down a list of many things, he recognized that he spoke empty
words, like a big mouth who knows it all and he then realized how low on the
totem pole of knowledge he was, and that by doing so he was slighting God,
the creator.

In regards to those that "repent in dust and ashes and abhor for nothing.”
Many a pope has done this very thing. While flagellating themselves with
whips, etc. Believing that they are paying penance when Jesus has paid the
full price for the sins of each individual man.

MM has never said what he thinks Job did as far as I know, yet he knocks
others for not posting what the scripture says about it.

John, this whole scenario regarding MM against the whole of Christianity is a
shame, and the finger pointing is not something that I enjoy, and the flaming
that goes on. That is not the way Jesus wants us to walk, and we are
admonished to just let the other person rant on, and let God deal with the
offenders. I know this truth and understand it and the reasoning behind it.
There is no justifiable reason for me to “defend myself” by exchanging
with others it a tit for tat type argument. And even if I kept it to a
minimum it is still not a proper thing for me to do.

I have no clue whether you are a real person or a figment of MM’s mind as I
have seen none of your posts.in the NG’s I frequent, but whether you are
real or not, what I said above is true, and I want to let you know that this
part of these conversations of finger pointing is wrong, before the Lord. So
I offer you my apology for my part in it, as I likewise here do before the
Lord.

Post by In the Name of Jesus
Remember: Bunyan: "Ignorance" at the gate. No certificate. "I feel in my
deepest heart that I am a subject of this kingdom."
Jeremiah 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately
wicked: who can know it?
Who is that man's heart deceiving?"
In the Name of Jesus

Christ Rose

2024-08-30 17:17:44 UTC

========================================
Fri, 30 Aug 2024 09:21:04 -0700,
<vasrhg$ihqm$***@dont-email.me>
Robert <***@no.way> wrote:
========================================

There is no justifiable reason for me to defend myself

We're reading through 2 Corinthians
11-12 in our daily family devotions.
Here, Paul uses sarcasm to defend his
reputation against the false "super
apostles" who were trying to undermine
him to the Corinthians. The reason he
defends himself wasn't for his own
glory, but because in undermining his
reputation, they were ultimately trying
to undermine the Corinthians faith in
the gospel Paul proclaimed. However, in
defending himself, he boasted of his
weaknesses, and noted repeatedly that he
was speaking as a "fool".

If the accusations are false, and if
they undermine the gospel to those who
listen to you, it is not unbiblical to
defend yourself.

by exchanging with others it a tit for tat type argument. And even if I kept it to a
minimum it is still not a proper thing for me to do.

It depends on the nature of the
discussion. If those participating offer
solid Bible reasons or counter reasons
for a proposed interpretation of
Scripture, then it can be an edifying
and sharpening process, even if there is
disagreement. It needs to be focused on
why the Bible means this, not that, and
it has to be based on solid reasons from
language, context, etc.

This has to be done with integrity,
though. You don't enter such discussions
so determined to label the other person
as being wrong about everything, that
you end up denying, opposing, and
contradicting everything they say,
including when they state something
which is Biblically solid. That just
ruins your own credibility, and
potentially turns people who might
otherwise benefit from sound Bible
teaching away from the truth.

--
Have you heard the good news Christ died
for our sins (), and God raised Him
from the dead?

That Christ died for our sins shows
we're sinners who deserve the death
penalty. That God raised Him from the
dead shows Christ's death satisfied
God's righteous demands against our sin
(Romans 3:25; 1 John 2:1-2). This means
God can now remain just, while forgiving
you of your sins, and saving you from
eternal damnation.

On the basis of Christ's death and
resurrection for our sins, call on
the name of the Lord to save you:
"For "everyone who calls on the name
of the Lord will be saved."" (Romans
10:13, ESV)

https://christrose.news/salvation

Robert

2024-08-30 19:15:22 UTC

Post by Christ Rose
========================================
Fri, 30 Aug 2024 09:21:04 -0700,
========================================

Post by Robert
There is no justifiable reason for me to “defend myself”

We're reading through 2 Corinthians
11-12 in our daily family devotions.
Here, Paul uses sarcasm to defend his
reputation against the false "super
apostles" who were trying to undermine
him to the Corinthians. The reason he
defends himself wasn't for his own
glory, but because in undermining his
reputation, they were ultimately trying
to undermine the Corinthians faith in
the gospel Paul proclaimed. However, in
defending himself, he boasted of his
weaknesses, and noted repeatedly that he
was speaking as a "fool".
If the accusations are false, and if
they undermine the gospel to those who
listen to you, it is not unbiblical to
defend yourself.

1Pe 2:19-23

19 For this is thankworthy, if a man for conscience toward God endure grief,
suffering wrongfully.

20 For what glory is it, if, when ye be buffeted for your faults, ye shall
take it patiently? but if, when ye do well, and suffer for it, ye take it
patiently, this is acceptable with God.

21 For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us,
leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:

22 Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth:

23 Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he
threatened not; but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously:

Rom 12:16-21

16Be of the same mind one toward another. Mind not high things, but
condescend to men of low estate. Be not wise in your own conceits.

17 Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of
all men.

18 If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.

19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath:
for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.

20 Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink:
for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.

21 Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.

For these reasons I said what I said. And if you compare the difference
between what and how Paul spoke with what often happens on the Usenet,
especially in these NG's, there is a VAST difference.

Paul made no direct or ad-homonym attacks on anyone, did not falsely accuse
them, etc.

My heart condemns me when or if I chose to do those things and if ones heart
condemns them, to them it is a sin.

And Paul did not self-justify himself.

Post by Robert
by exchanging with others it a tit for tat type argument. And even if I kept it to a
minimum it is still not a proper thing for me to do.

This last statement of yours falsely assigns the purposes as to why I comment
as I do.
I have little doubt about the hardness of your heart, since that is how you
speak, assigning and assuming the actions of others, never hearing what the
scriptures speak.

In the Name of Jesus

2024-08-30 23:15:56 UTC

Post by Christ Rose
========================================
Fri, 30 Aug 2024 09:21:04 -0700,
========================================

Post by Robert
There is no justifiable reason for me to “defend myself”

You see?

Self-deceit.

In the Name of Jesus

Post by Christ Rose
We're reading through 2 Corinthians
11-12 in our daily family devotions.
Here, Paul uses sarcasm to defend his
reputation against the false "super
apostles" who were trying to undermine
him to the Corinthians. The reason he
defends himself wasn't for his own
glory, but because in undermining his
reputation, they were ultimately trying
to undermine the Corinthians faith in
the gospel Paul proclaimed. However, in
defending himself, he boasted of his
weaknesses, and noted repeatedly that he
was speaking as a "fool".
If the accusations are false, and if
they undermine the gospel to those who
listen to you, it is not unbiblical to
defend yourself.

Post by Robert
by exchanging with others it a tit for tat type argument. And even if I kept it to a
minimum it is still not a proper thing for me to do.

It depends on the nature of the
discussion. If those participating offer
solid Bible reasons or counter reasons
for a proposed interpretation of
Scripture, then it can be an edifying
and sharpening process, even if there is
disagreement. It needs to be focused on
why the Bible means this, not that, and
it has to be based on solid reasons from
language, context, etc.
This has to be done with integrity,
though. You don't enter such discussions
so determined to label the other person
as being wrong about everything, that
you end up denying, opposing, and
contradicting everything they say,
including when they state something
which is Biblically solid. That just
ruins your own credibility, and
potentially turns people who might
otherwise benefit from sound Bible
teaching away from the truth.
--
Have you heard the good news Christ died
for our sins (†), and God raised Him
from the dead?
That Christ died for our sins shows
we're sinners who deserve the death
penalty. That God raised Him from the
dead shows Christ's death satisfied
God's righteous demands against our sin
(Romans 3:25; 1 John 2:1-2). This means
God can now remain just, while forgiving
you of your sins, and saving you from
eternal damnation.
On the basis of Christ's death and
resurrection for our sins, call on
"For "everyone who calls on the name
of the Lord will be saved."" (Romans
10:13, ESV)
https://christrose.news/salvation

Robert

2024-08-30 23:38:40 UTC

Romans 8: Doctrinal Summary
August 30, 2024 at 4:15:56 PM PDT

Post by Christ Rose
========================================
Fri, 30 Aug 2024 09:21:04 -0700,
========================================

Post by Robert
There is no justifiable reason for me to “defend myself”

You see?
Self-deceit.
In the Name of Jesus

Perhaps I should have mention, defend myself spiritually.

Where is your proof of self-deceit? From the voices in your head?

In the Name of Jesus

2024-08-31 00:12:29 UTC

Romans 8: Doctrinal Summary
August 30, 2024 at 4:15:56 PM PDT

Post by Christ Rose
========================================
Fri, 30 Aug 2024 09:21:04 -0700,
========================================

Post by Robert
There is no justifiable reason for me to “defend myself”

You see?
Self-deceit.
In the Name of Jesus

Perhaps I should have mention, defend myself spiritually.

Yet here you are in your self-deceit doing just that.

Post by Robert
Where is your proof of self-deceit? From the voices in your head?

Heart. Yes, the Lord is never wrong.

In the Name of Jesus
--
God is God in all His Being. All the glory is His, for He is all glory.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30 I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

"The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence or proof is to be found."

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: a man full of bluster and bullshit in his
meaninglessness pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

"What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence."

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

"Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."

"But remember this: always, absolutely always, all the glory is the
Lord's and His alone, and anyone who takes any credit for anything, you
know, instantly, he is not what he pretends to be and is a false prophet."

"That light had to bear (bears all things) the darkness for us, but that
light did not ever become darkness."

"You must reach beyond the bible that tells you about Him, and into your
daily life to find Him in Person. He's there."

"What is wrong with Christendom? False understanding based on compromise."

"It is not in man to love his enemies. And if he tries, he is walking in
a lie and trying to raise himself up to the level of God."

Robert

2024-08-31 04:49:13 UTC

Romans 8: Doctrinal Summary
August 30, 2024 at 4:15:56 PM PDT

Post by Christ Rose
========================================
Fri, 30 Aug 2024 09:21:04 -0700,
========================================

Post by Robert
There is no justifiable reason for me to “defend myself”

You see?
Self-deceit.
In the Name of Jesus

Perhaps I should have mention, defend myself spiritually.

Yet here you are in your self-deceit doing just that.

Post by Robert
Where is your proof of self-deceit? From the voices in your head?

Heart. Yes, the Lord is never wrong.
In the Name of Jesus

When what you hear is distinctly different from the Word of God, unless you
walk in self-deceit it should have smacked you in the face that you are not
hearing from the Heavenly Father.

In the Name of Jesus

2024-08-31 05:55:01 UTC

Romans 8: Doctrinal Summary
August 30, 2024 at 4:15:56 PM PDT

Post by Christ Rose
========================================
Fri, 30 Aug 2024 09:21:04 -0700,
========================================

Post by Robert
There is no justifiable reason for me to “defend myself”

You see?
Self-deceit.
In the Name of Jesus

Perhaps I should have mention, defend myself spiritually.

Yet here you are in your self-deceit doing just that.

Post by Robert
Where is your proof of self-deceit? From the voices in your head?

Heart. Yes, the Lord is never wrong.
In the Name of Jesus

When what you hear is distinctly different from the Word of God, unless you
walk in self-deceit it should have smacked you in the face that you are not
hearing from the Heavenly Father.

Give it up, Robert. You are not Word of God truth; you are self-deceived.

You seriously need to do what Job did or perish in the lie, Buddy.

You are wrong; you have always been wrong. So what? The Lord is not
legalism and law like your religion. Now get on your fuckin' knees and
stop being a pathetic coward and thou will "lackest" no more.

In the Name of Jesus
--
God is God in all His Being. All the glory is His, for He is all glory.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30 I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

"The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence or proof is to be found."

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: a man full of bluster and bullshit in his
meaninglessness pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

"What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence."

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

"Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."

"But remember this: always, absolutely always, all the glory is the
Lord's and His alone, and anyone who takes any credit for anything, you
know, instantly, he is not what he pretends to be and is a false prophet."

"That light had to bear (bears all things) the darkness for us, but that
light did not ever become darkness."

"You must reach beyond the bible that tells you about Him, and into your
daily life to find Him in Person. He's there."

"What is wrong with Christendom? False understanding based on compromise."

"It is not in man to love his enemies. And if he tries, he is walking in
a lie and trying to raise himself up to the level of God."

El Kabong

2024-08-31 21:08:55 UTC

There is no justifiable reason for me to defend myself

You see?
Self-deceit.
In the Name of Jesus

Perhaps I should have mention, defend myself spiritually.

Yet here you are in your self-deceit doing just that.

Post by Robert
Where is your proof of self-deceit? From the voices in your head?

Heart. Yes, the Lord is never wrong.
In the Name of Jesus

When what you hear is distinctly different from the Word of God, unless you
walk in self-deceit it should have smacked you in the face that you are not
hearing from the Heavenly Father.

Who do you think is speaking to MX's heart?

Robert

2024-09-01 07:28:36 UTC

Post by Robert
There is no justifiable reason for me to “defend myself”

You see?
Self-deceit.
In the Name of Jesus

Perhaps I should have mention, defend myself spiritually.

Yet here you are in your self-deceit doing just that.

Post by Robert
Where is your proof of self-deceit? From the voices in your head?

Heart. Yes, the Lord is never wrong.
In the Name of Jesus

When what you hear is distinctly different from the Word of God, unless you
walk in self-deceit it should have smacked you in the face that you are not
hearing from the Heavenly Father.

Who do you think is speaking to MX's heart?

I can only say that he is not listening to the Heavenly Father, or Jesus, or
the Holy Spirit, based on his consistent errors. One can hear and not listen.

El Kabong

2024-09-01 10:00:34 UTC

...

Post by Robert
Where is your proof of self-deceit? From the voices in your head?

Heart. Yes, the Lord is never wrong.
In the Name of Jesus

When what you hear is distinctly different from the Word of God, unless you
walk in self-deceit it should have smacked you in the face that you are not
hearing from the Heavenly Father.

Who do you think is speaking to MX's heart?

I can only say that he is not listening to the Heavenly Father, or Jesus, or
the Holy Spirit, based on his consistent errors. One can hear and not listen.

Do you hear "voices"? How do you distinguish who's on
the other end?

Is it semi-audible, or telepathic?

Robert

2024-09-01 21:53:04 UTC

...

Post by Robert
Where is your proof of self-deceit? From the voices in your head?

Heart. Yes, the Lord is never wrong.
In the Name of Jesus

When what you hear is distinctly different from the Word of God, unless you
walk in self-deceit it should have smacked you in the face that you are not
hearing from the Heavenly Father.

Who do you think is speaking to MX's heart?

I can only say that he is not listening to the Heavenly Father, or Jesus, or
the Holy Spirit, based on his consistent errors. One can hear and not listen.

Do you hear "voices"? How do you distinguish who's on
the other end?
Is it semi-audible, or telepathic?

Which world are you speaking about?

El Kabong

2024-09-01 22:40:24 UTC

...

Post by Robert
Where is your proof of self-deceit? From the voices in your head?

Heart. Yes, the Lord is never wrong.
In the Name of Jesus

When what you hear is distinctly different from the Word of God, unless you
walk in self-deceit it should have smacked you in the face that you are not
hearing from the Heavenly Father.

Who do you think is speaking to MX's heart?

I can only say that he is not listening to the Heavenly Father, or Jesus, or
the Holy Spirit, based on his consistent errors. One can hear and not listen.

Do you hear "voices"? How do you distinguish who's on
the other end?
Is it semi-audible, or telepathic?

Which world are you speaking about?

I don't know if there are multiple worlds.

You told MX, "When what you hear is distinctly different
from the Word of God,..." Whatever you were talking
about then, that's what i'm asking you about.

Robert

2024-09-02 04:31:35 UTC

...

Post by Robert
Where is your proof of self-deceit? From the voices in your head?

Heart. Yes, the Lord is never wrong.
In the Name of Jesus

When what you hear is distinctly different from the Word of God, unless
you
walk in self-deceit it should have smacked you in the face that you are
not
hearing from the Heavenly Father.

Who do you think is speaking to MX's heart?

I can only say that he is not listening to the Heavenly Father, or Jesus, or
the Holy Spirit, based on his consistent errors. One can hear and not listen.

Do you hear "voices"? How do you distinguish who's on
the other end?
Is it semi-audible, or telepathic?

Which world are you speaking about?

I don't know if there are multiple worlds.
You told MX, "When what you hear is distinctly different
from the Word of God,..." Whatever you were talking
about then, that's what i'm asking you about.

OK, then base on that, I will need to qualify it with the basic understanding
of what the Bible teaches.

1 - When a person is Born Again they are a new creature in Jesus Christ, born
of the Heavenly Father. 2 - There spirit is reborn and has become part of the
Heavenly Kingdom and that is Spiritual, and not of this world but of the
world to come.
3 - We live in this world, because of your Bodies, but we are not part of it
spiritually since we are of the Kingdom of God.
4- As believers one has full access to God the Heavenly Father, to His Son
Jesus, and to the Holy Spirit.

This is all the reality of a Spiritual Kingdom, one that has always existed,
still exists, and will exist long after this world and all its makings are
burnt up in a ball of fire.

All this is said to show that there is a spiritual reality. That supersedes
our reality in this world. Spirits once born never cease to exist.

In the spiritual world there is God and His kingdom, and Satan and his
kingdom. We have the opportunity to enjoy one and be apart of it, or deny it
and join another.

Spirits communicate. Whether they be of God or satan. God, of course is all
powerful and Satan an imitator and much much weaker. So weak that God has
given man authority over him even while we live in this earth. Yet he is a
pretender, and likes to imitate God to man. Mankind is often easily fooled.
And those that are not of God might hear his voice and think he is God, but
he is not. Jesus said, those of my flock know my voice, and we do, many who
have not been born again know not the difference, and they like to think they
are all goody two shoes, and pretend to be “christians” and are as phony
as a three dollar bill.

So to answer your question, in regards to MM. if the voice or voices he heard
do not match up with what God speaks in the Bible they are not of God,
whether it be a voice like mine, or a spiritual voice.

There are many voices in this world and none without meaning. Wisdom and
knowledge are required to make sense of it all. And if the voices in the head
of a lunatic comes to your mind and thoughts, yes, they too are real, and
generally via evil spirits. Whether a person recognizes is or not. Some use
Drugs, and have done so throughout the ages to contact spirits in the other
world. But God the Heavenly Father does not operate that way, and that way is
forbidden of God.

Yes, this is lengthy, but I wanted to qualify if some for clarities sake.

El Kabong

2024-09-02 07:07:32 UTC

...

Post by Robert
Where is your proof of self-deceit? From the voices in your head?

Heart. Yes, the Lord is never wrong.
In the Name of Jesus

When what you hear is distinctly different from the Word of God, unless
you
walk in self-deceit it should have smacked you in the face that you are
not
hearing from the Heavenly Father.

Who do you think is speaking to MX's heart?

I can only say that he is not listening to the Heavenly Father, or Jesus,
or
the Holy Spirit, based on his consistent errors. One can hear and not
listen.

Do you hear "voices"? How do you distinguish who's on
the other end?
Is it semi-audible, or telepathic?

Which world are you speaking about?

I don't know if there are multiple worlds.
You told MX, "When what you hear is distinctly different
from the Word of God,..." Whatever you were talking
about then, that's what i'm asking you about.

OK, then base on that, I will need to qualify it with the basic understanding
of what the Bible teaches.
1 - When a person is Born Again they are a new creature in Jesus Christ, born
of the Heavenly Father. 2 - There spirit is reborn and has become part of the
Heavenly Kingdom and that is Spiritual, and not of this world but of the
world to come.
3 - We live in this world, because of your Bodies, but we are not part of it
spiritually since we are of the Kingdom of God.
4- As believers one has full access to God the Heavenly Father, to His Son
Jesus, and to the Holy Spirit.
This is all the reality of a Spiritual Kingdom, one that has always existed,
still exists, and will exist long after this world and all its makings are
burnt up in a ball of fire.
All this is said to show that there is a spiritual reality. That supersedes
our reality in this world. Spirits once born never cease to exist.
In the spiritual world there is God and His kingdom, and Satan and his
kingdom. We have the opportunity to enjoy one and be apart of it, or deny it
and join another.
Spirits communicate. Whether they be of God or satan. God, of course is all
powerful and Satan an imitator and much much weaker. So weak that God has
given man authority over him even while we live in this earth. Yet he is a
pretender, and likes to imitate God to man. Mankind is often easily fooled.
And those that are not of God might hear his voice and think he is God, but
he is not. Jesus said, those of my flock know my voice, and we do, many who
have not been born again know not the difference, and they like to think they
are all goody two shoes, and pretend to be christians and are as phony
as a three dollar bill.
So to answer your question, in regards to MM. if the voice or voices he heard
do not match up with what God speaks in the Bible they are not of God,
whether it be a voice like mine, or a spiritual voice.

So you're saying, you have to be a bible scholar to know
whether the voice is from God or satan. Which leaves the
average sheep incommunicado, does it not?

What's a "spiritual voice"? Is it like telepathy? Or
like something that comes into your mind in the twilight
before sleep? Or a physical sensation? Dalton describes
"perenial clicks" as psychic confirmation, is that a
usual sign?

Post by Robert
There are many voices in this world and none without meaning. Wisdom and
knowledge are required to make sense of it all. And if the voices in the head
of a lunatic comes to your mind and thoughts, yes, they too are real, and
generally via evil spirits. Whether a person recognizes is or not.

Mentally afflicted people often hear voices coming from
their own minds, whether auditory hallucination or
telepathic. This is medical fact, it can't all be
dismissed as coming from evil spirits, which may or may
not exist.

I'm inclined to think the voices MX claims are in the
category of psychiatric pathology, if not completely made
up. Then again, I don't believe in the other categories
anyway. YMMV.

Post by Robert
Yes, this is lengthy, but I wanted to qualify if some for clarities sake.

Robert

2024-09-02 17:35:09 UTC

...

Post by Robert
Where is your proof of self-deceit? From the voices in your head?

Heart. Yes, the Lord is never wrong.
In the Name of Jesus

When what you hear is distinctly different from the Word of God,
unless
you
walk in self-deceit it should have smacked you in the face that you
are
not
hearing from the Heavenly Father.

Who do you think is speaking to MX's heart?

I can only say that he is not listening to the Heavenly Father, or
Jesus,
or
the Holy Spirit, based on his consistent errors. One can hear and not
listen.

Do you hear "voices"? How do you distinguish who's on
the other end?
Is it semi-audible, or telepathic?

Which world are you speaking about?

I don't know if there are multiple worlds.
You told MX, "When what you hear is distinctly different
from the Word of God,..." Whatever you were talking
about then, that's what i'm asking you about.

OK, then base on that, I will need to qualify it with the basic understanding
of what the Bible teaches.
1 - When a person is Born Again they are a new creature in Jesus Christ, born
of the Heavenly Father. 2 - There spirit is reborn and has become part of the
Heavenly Kingdom and that is Spiritual, and not of this world but of the
world to come.
3 - We live in this world, because of your Bodies, but we are not part of it
spiritually since we are of the Kingdom of God.
4- As believers one has full access to God the Heavenly Father, to His Son
Jesus, and to the Holy Spirit.
This is all the reality of a Spiritual Kingdom, one that has always existed,
still exists, and will exist long after this world and all its makings are
burnt up in a ball of fire.
All this is said to show that there is a spiritual reality. That supersedes
our reality in this world. Spirits once born never cease to exist.
In the spiritual world there is God and His kingdom, and Satan and his
kingdom. We have the opportunity to enjoy one and be apart of it, or deny it
and join another.
Spirits communicate. Whether they be of God or satan. God, of course is all
powerful and Satan an imitator and much much weaker. So weak that God has
given man authority over him even while we live in this earth. Yet he is a
pretender, and likes to imitate God to man. Mankind is often easily fooled.
And those that are not of God might hear his voice and think he is God, but
he is not. Jesus said, those of my flock know my voice, and we do, many who
have not been born again know not the difference, and they like to think they
are all goody two shoes, and pretend to be “christians” and are as phony
as a three dollar bill.
So to answer your question, in regards to MM. if the voice or voices he heard
do not match up with what God speaks in the Bible they are not of God,
whether it be a voice like mine, or a spiritual voice.

So you're saying, you have to be a bible scholar to know
whether the voice is from God or satan. Which leaves the
average sheep incommunicado, does it not?

Not at all. One needs to be Born Again and follow Jesus.
Anyone can chose the Way.

Post by El Kabong
What's a "spiritual voice"? Is it like telepathy? Or
like something that comes into your mind in the twilight
before sleep? Or a physical sensation? Dalton describes
"perenial clicks" as psychic confirmation, is that a
usual sign?

Dalton is not of God.
The voice is as realistic as if I was standing near you and speaking to you.
There are other ways of communicating, via thoughts. A very real exchange or
communication also.
An example of that in the case of Satans influence are thoughts that pop into
ones head suggesting that they drive into, or off of a bridge or overpass.

The Lord can and also does communicate via what one would think of as
thoughts, but they would always be in true accordance with the Holy Bible and
can be verified with it. That too can be done in a variety of ways.

There is no set pattern for communication, the ways and means of it. God is a
friend to those that believe, and after all, when one prays to God are they
not speaking to Him? Why speak to him if you do not expect or want an answer
or understanding?

They do exist. And yes they hear the voices, or thoughts, and yes it often
seems to come from their minds. Jesus delivered people from these things in
the days he walked on this earth, and believers in Christ can do so also for
those people in need. But many in the churches are conned into thinking that
they have no power over evil, or are in fear of Satans power, which shows
they have been deceived. They need to set those people free, in the name of
Jesus, and by the power of God within them.

Post by El Kabong
I'm inclined to think the voices MX claims are in the
category of psychiatric pathology, if not completely made
up. Then again, I don't believe in the other categories
anyway. YMMV.

I can’t speak for MM, but I can judge the outcome of his thoughts when they
oppose what the Bible Speaks. There is a way that seems or appears to be
right in the eyes of men, but the end thereof is death, spiritual death. God
can and will help those that need the understanding if they are willing to
receive it.

Suffice it to say, one can have a real and tangible experiential relationship
with the Heavenly Father, through His Son, Jesus the Messiah. God is not some
intangible nefarious entity, power or thing He is so very real that those who
have had an experiential relationship know beyond any shadow of doubt His
reality, and can receive the peace that surpasses all human understanding.
And yes, that too is a distinct reality for those that are a child of God.

Post by Robert
Yes, this is lengthy, but I wanted to qualify if some for clarities sake.

El Kabong

2024-09-03 05:49:13 UTC

...

Post by Robert
Where is your proof of self-deceit? From the voices in your head?

Heart. Yes, the Lord is never wrong.
In the Name of Jesus

When what you hear is distinctly different from the Word of God,
unless
you
walk in self-deceit it should have smacked you in the face that you
are
not
hearing from the Heavenly Father.

Who do you think is speaking to MX's heart?

I can only say that he is not listening to the Heavenly Father, or
Jesus,
or
the Holy Spirit, based on his consistent errors. One can hear and not
listen.

Do you hear "voices"? How do you distinguish who's on
the other end?
Is it semi-audible, or telepathic?

Which world are you speaking about?

I don't know if there are multiple worlds.
You told MX, "When what you hear is distinctly different
from the Word of God,..." Whatever you were talking
about then, that's what i'm asking you about.

OK, then base on that, I will need to qualify it with the basic understanding
of what the Bible teaches.
1 - When a person is Born Again they are a new creature in Jesus Christ, born
of the Heavenly Father. 2 - There spirit is reborn and has become part of the
Heavenly Kingdom and that is Spiritual, and not of this world but of the
world to come.
3 - We live in this world, because of your Bodies, but we are not part of it
spiritually since we are of the Kingdom of God.
4- As believers one has full access to God the Heavenly Father, to His Son
Jesus, and to the Holy Spirit.
This is all the reality of a Spiritual Kingdom, one that has always existed,
still exists, and will exist long after this world and all its makings are
burnt up in a ball of fire.
All this is said to show that there is a spiritual reality. That supersedes
our reality in this world. Spirits once born never cease to exist.
In the spiritual world there is God and His kingdom, and Satan and his
kingdom. We have the opportunity to enjoy one and be apart of it, or deny it
and join another.
Spirits communicate. Whether they be of God or satan. God, of course is all
powerful and Satan an imitator and much much weaker. So weak that God has
given man authority over him even while we live in this earth. Yet he is a
pretender, and likes to imitate God to man. Mankind is often easily fooled.
And those that are not of God might hear his voice and think he is God, but
he is not. Jesus said, those of my flock know my voice, and we do, many who
have not been born again know not the difference, and they like to think they
are all goody two shoes, and pretend to be christians and are as phony
as a three dollar bill.
So to answer your question, in regards to MM. if the voice or voices he heard
do not match up with what God speaks in the Bible they are not of God,
whether it be a voice like mine, or a spiritual voice.

So you're saying, you have to be a bible scholar to know
whether the voice is from God or satan. Which leaves the
average sheep incommunicado, does it not?

Not at all. One needs to be Born Again and follow Jesus.
Anyone can chose the Way.

Being born again is apparently not straightforward even.
Listen to all the christians in this group, condemning
each other to hell and saying, i'm an xtian and you
aren't.

Then one has to determine if the voice comports with the
bible or not. It doesn't sound very simple to me.

If MX or James or Rosie says God told them something, do
you accept it at face value? Probably not, right?

Dalton is not of God.

You're free to have your opinion... but that's an example
of what I was talking about above.

Post by Robert
The voice is as realistic as if I was standing near you and speaking to you.
There are other ways of communicating, via thoughts. A very real exchange or
communication also.
An example of that in the case of Satans influence are thoughts that pop into
ones head suggesting that they drive into, or off of a bridge or overpass.
The Lord can and also does communicate via what one would think of as
thoughts, but they would always be in true accordance with the Holy Bible and
can be verified with it. That too can be done in a variety of ways.
There is no set pattern for communication, the ways and means of it. God is a
friend to those that believe, and after all, when one prays to God are they
not speaking to Him? Why speak to him if you do not expect or want an answer
or understanding?

Now this is what i wanted to hear about.

Does it happen often to you? Daily or more?

Can you get answers when you ask, or do you have to wait?
Is it difficult to understand the answer sometimes?
Do you think it's similar for other xtians?

Thanks for explaining it. I'm curious, not meaning to be
contentious.

I cant speak for MM, but I can judge the outcome of his thoughts when they
oppose what the Bible Speaks. There is a way that seems or appears to be
right in the eyes of men, but the end thereof is death, spiritual death. God
can and will help those that need the understanding if they are willing to
receive it.
Suffice it to say, one can have a real and tangible experiential relationship
with the Heavenly Father, through His Son, Jesus the Messiah. God is not some
intangible nefarious entity, power or thing He is so very real that those who
have had an experiential relationship know beyond any shadow of doubt His
reality, and can receive the peace that surpasses all human understanding.
And yes, that too is a distinct reality for those that are a child of God.

Post by Robert
Yes, this is lengthy, but I wanted to qualify if some for clarities sake.

Robert

2024-09-03 08:05:30 UTC

...

Post by Robert
Where is your proof of self-deceit? From the voices in your head?

Heart. Yes, the Lord is never wrong.
In the Name of Jesus

When what you hear is distinctly different from the Word of God,
unless
you
walk in self-deceit it should have smacked you in the face that you
are
not
hearing from the Heavenly Father.

Who do you think is speaking to MX's heart?

I can only say that he is not listening to the Heavenly Father, or
Jesus,
or
the Holy Spirit, based on his consistent errors. One can hear and not
listen.

Do you hear "voices"? How do you distinguish who's on
the other end?
Is it semi-audible, or telepathic?

Which world are you speaking about?

I don't know if there are multiple worlds.
You told MX, "When what you hear is distinctly different
from the Word of God,..." Whatever you were talking
about then, that's what i'm asking you about.

OK, then base on that, I will need to qualify it with the basic understanding
of what the Bible teaches.
1 - When a person is Born Again they are a new creature in Jesus Christ, born
of the Heavenly Father. 2 - There spirit is reborn and has become part of the
Heavenly Kingdom and that is Spiritual, and not of this world but of the
world to come.
3 - We live in this world, because of your Bodies, but we are not part of it
spiritually since we are of the Kingdom of God.
4- As believers one has full access to God the Heavenly Father, to His Son
Jesus, and to the Holy Spirit.
This is all the reality of a Spiritual Kingdom, one that has always existed,
still exists, and will exist long after this world and all its makings are
burnt up in a ball of fire.
All this is said to show that there is a spiritual reality. That supersedes
our reality in this world. Spirits once born never cease to exist.
In the spiritual world there is God and His kingdom, and Satan and his
kingdom. We have the opportunity to enjoy one and be apart of it, or deny it
and join another.
Spirits communicate. Whether they be of God or satan. God, of course is all
powerful and Satan an imitator and much much weaker. So weak that God has
given man authority over him even while we live in this earth. Yet he is a
pretender, and likes to imitate God to man. Mankind is often easily fooled.
And those that are not of God might hear his voice and think he is God, but
he is not. Jesus said, those of my flock know my voice, and we do, many who
have not been born again know not the difference, and they like to think they
are all goody two shoes, and pretend to be “christians” and are as phony
as a three dollar bill.
So to answer your question, in regards to MM. if the voice or voices he heard
do not match up with what God speaks in the Bible they are not of God,
whether it be a voice like mine, or a spiritual voice.

So you're saying, you have to be a bible scholar to know
whether the voice is from God or satan. Which leaves the
average sheep incommunicado, does it not?

Not at all. One needs to be Born Again and follow Jesus.
Anyone can chose the Way.

Being born again is apparently not straightforward even.
Listen to all the christians in this group, condemning
each other to hell and saying, i'm an xtian and you
aren't.

In Matthew, the book, Jesus teaches on the parable of seeds. It describes
what happens to people who hear the word, and how they respond to it, and how
many fall away, because their focus in life is on the natural things, and so
they fall. Not all, but some, even many. No man will know exactly until the
end when final judgment is given. And yes, I agree with your assessment of
the situation, and the shame of it all.

Post by El Kabong
Then one has to determine if the voice comports with the
bible or not. It doesn't sound very simple to me.

It really is not all that difficult. Those in Christ just know in their
hears/spirit what the Holy Spirit of God witnesses to them, and so the
suspect when it is proper to do so. But there are restraints on these actions
that are given, obviously few follow them, even when it is pointed out to
them. The shame of it all, is that the actions of such people bring shame on
the Lord we are supposed to be serving and thereby exhibit very poor
representation of the Most High God. I cannot claim to be totally free of
these things in my past life, but I can say that I have chosen to use by
words as wisely as I can and even so the Lord speaks to me saying that I have
crossed the line at times, and usually I will delete my comments, because we
are not to give even a hint of erroneous actions. Sometimes I have left the
comments in, regretting having done so as soon as I send the post, and at
that point I cannot cancel the message for that option has disappeared many
years ago.

Post by El Kabong
If MX or James or Rosie says God told them something, do
you accept it at face value? Probably not, right?

I consider what is said, basing my understanding of scripture and their
intents. James the JW is in total error, even when he has the occasional
scripture correct, his whole religious premise is in error and the JW’s are
a cult, full of false prophets. Yet it is not against him the person, but his
religious view and beliefs. The others, I will let God do the judging of
their hearts. But if I happen to read gross error, I cannot let it go by
without comment. Giving them the chance to hear and repent if they chose to
do so. I am not above others, and over the years others have pointed out to
me errors I have made, and have had to acknowledge them, and repenting,
meaning turn a 180 and walk as I should,

Dalton is not of God.

You're free to have your opinion... but that's an example
of what I was talking about above.

He is not a christian, has not given his heart to the Lord, does his own
chants and spells and he listens to know one. He is no better than others who
practice Voo Doo with spells and such. It is not an opinion but an
understanding of spiritual fact.

Post by Robert
The voice is as realistic as if I was standing near you and speaking to you.
There are other ways of communicating, via thoughts. A very real exchange or
communication also.
An example of that in the case of Satans influence are thoughts that pop into
ones head suggesting that they drive into, or off of a bridge or overpass.
The Lord can and also does communicate via what one would think of as
thoughts, but they would always be in true accordance with the Holy Bible and
can be verified with it. That too can be done in a variety of ways.
There is no set pattern for communication, the ways and means of it. God is
a friend to those that believe, and after all, when one prays to God are they
not speaking to Him? Why speak to him if you do not expect or want an answer
or understanding?

Now this is what i wanted to hear about.
Does it happen often to you? Daily or more?

I pray often each day. For people, to give thanksgiving to God for the day,
food, etc. and I mean it. I have seen how he has guided my path over the
years. I also pray for our country as well as others.

Post by El Kabong
Can you get answers when you ask, or do you have to wait?

Both, and I can distinctly remember one situation where I asked for
understanding regards a certain subject in the Bible and did not receive an
answer even after a few weeks of studying and expecting. Then One day, I was
reading something in the Bible, and recognized it as the answer to a question
I had asked in the past, which was a strange feeling, since I could not
remember the question. So I told God what I just mentioned, and asked what
was the original question that it was an answer to. He reminded me what the
question was, which was many months before. I have learned I can depend on
him, always.

Post by El Kabong
Is it difficult to understand the answer sometimes?

No, he usually confirms what he says in several ways. Especially via
scripture in three different sections of the Bible, that fully explain what
he means. I have at times received an answer I was not expecting, and that my
understanding was off base. Or that I received a promise of the answer to
come, and that I was to wait for it to be. I might get impatient waiting, but
I learned that it all comes to fruition when it was best for all involved.

Post by El Kabong
Do you think it's similar for other xtians?

Most certainly, God is not a respecter of person. What he does for one he is
willing to do for all.

Post by El Kabong
Thanks for explaining it. I'm curious, not meaning to be
contentious.

You are welcome, and I hope if is of use for you, I saw no contentions there.
People can have a difference of understandings without a contentious bone in
their body. And that is how we should all respect one another. I know I could
not fully answer your questions without extensive conversation, but if it
helps a little bit, that is good, and I pray that the Lord will open your
eyes to see him as He is, not the way many christians represent him.All who
claim to be christian are not, some say they are or used to simply because
they were born in a “christian” country, or their parents were so they
just assumed they were too. We each have to make our own choice.

I can’t speak for MM, but I can judge the outcome of his thoughts when they
oppose what the Bible Speaks. There is a way that seems or appears to be
right in the eyes of men, but the end thereof is death, spiritual death. God
can and will help those that need the understanding if they are willing to
receive it.
Suffice it to say, one can have a real and tangible experiential relationship
with the Heavenly Father, through His Son, Jesus the Messiah. God is not some
intangible nefarious entity, power or thing He is so very real that those who
have had an experiential relationship know beyond any shadow of doubt His
reality, and can receive the peace that surpasses all human understanding.
And yes, that too is a distinct reality for those that are a child of God.

Post by Robert
Yes, this is lengthy, but I wanted to qualify if some for clarities sake.

El Kabong

2024-09-07 07:39:09 UTC

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Post by Robert
So to answer your question, in regards to MM. if the voice or voices he
heard
do not match up with what God speaks in the Bible they are not of God,
whether it be a voice like mine, or a spiritual voice.

So you're saying, you have to be a bible scholar to know
whether the voice is from God or satan. Which leaves the
average sheep incommunicado, does it not?

Not at all. One needs to be Born Again and follow Jesus.
Anyone can chose the Way.

Being born again is apparently not straightforward even.
Listen to all the christians in this group, condemning
each other to hell and saying, i'm an xtian and you
aren't.

You seem to miss my point. It has nothing to do with the
parable of seeds. It's how one knows if the voices he
hears are God, another god, Satan, or mental illness.

Post by El Kabong
Then one has to determine if the voice comports with the
bible or not. It doesn't sound very simple to me.

How does one know if they are "in Christ"?
Then, how do you know who's "in Christ" and who's not?

That's the whole problem, is it not?

Post by El Kabong
If MX or James or Rosie says God told them something, do
you accept it at face value? Probably not, right?

I consider what is said, basing my understanding of scripture and their
intents. James the JW is in total error, even when he has the occasional
scripture correct, his whole religious premise is in error and the JWs are
a cult, full of false prophets. Yet it is not against him the person, but his
religious view and beliefs. The others, I will let God do the judging of
their hearts. But if I happen to read gross error, I cannot let it go by
without comment. Giving them the chance to hear and repent if they chose to
do so. I am not above others, and over the years others have pointed out to
me errors I have made, and have had to acknowledge them, and repenting,
meaning turn a 180 and walk as I should,

James is just as convinced, and just as sincere as you
are. Do you expect him to take your word for it that
he's not a christian? This whole theology thing isn't
hard science, it's very much subjective.

Perhaps you think there's something in the voice he hears
that should be telling him his theology is wrong, and he
should take up yours? It's just as apparent to me that
the voice of reason says you are both barking up the tree
of fictitious objects of faith.

In the end, we have to decide for ourselves, but we don't
get to decide for our neighbor, do we?

Dalton is not of God.

You're free to have your opinion... but that's an example
of what I was talking about above.

Obviously Dalton isn't an xtian, and he never tried to
be. He marches to his own drummer and he's open about
that. He is just as rational as any other person of
faith.

The MXtian view would be "i'm right, you're wrong, and
i'm in charge here". In a pluralistic post-inquisition
society, most people have come to accept that as
counter-productive. If nothing else, you need a little
respect for people's beliefs in order to evangelize them.

Post by Robert
The voice is as realistic as if I was standing near you and speaking to you.
There are other ways of communicating, via thoughts. A very real exchange or
communication also.
An example of that in the case of Satans influence are thoughts that pop into
ones head suggesting that they drive into, or off of a bridge or overpass.
The Lord can and also does communicate via what one would think of as
thoughts, but they would always be in true accordance with the Holy Bible and
can be verified with it. That too can be done in a variety of ways.
There is no set pattern for communication, the ways and means of it. God is
a friend to those that believe, and after all, when one prays to God are they
not speaking to Him? Why speak to him if you do not expect or want an answer
or understanding?

Now this is what i wanted to hear about.
Does it happen often to you? Daily or more?

Post by El Kabong
Can you get answers when you ask, or do you have to wait?

That's pretty remarkable.

Post by El Kabong
Is it difficult to understand the answer sometimes?

Post by El Kabong
Do you think it's similar for other xtians?

Most certainly, God is not a respecter of person. What he does for one he is
willing to do for all.

Post by El Kabong
Thanks for explaining it. I'm curious, not meaning to be
contentious.

You are welcome, and I hope if is of use for you, I saw no contentions there.
People can have a difference of understandings without a contentious bone in
their body. And that is how we should all respect one another. I know I could
not fully answer your questions without extensive conversation, but if it
helps a little bit, that is good, and I pray that the Lord will open your
eyes to see him as He is, not the way many christians represent him.All who
claim to be christian are not, some say they are or used to simply because
they were born in a christian country, or their parents were so they
just assumed they were too. We each have to make our own choice.

Thanks.

Robert

2024-09-08 02:23:16 UTC

...

So you're saying, you have to be a bible scholar to know
whether the voice is from God or satan. Which leaves the
average sheep incommunicado, does it not?

Not at all. One needs to be Born Again and follow Jesus.
Anyone can chose the Way.

Being born again is apparently not straightforward even.
Listen to all the christians in this group, condemning
each other to hell and saying, i'm an xtian and you
aren't.

You seem to miss my point. It has nothing to do with the
parable of seeds. It's how one knows if the voices he
hears are God, another god, Satan, or mental illness.

Well, in that regards I feel I owe you an apology. It is no excuse, but given
the nature of how some of you have responded, and often ask questions in a
trolling or baiting way I was careful in how I responded. In this case overly
so. So I apologize to you for doing that. In regards to that I can offer
responses out of personal experiences, interspersed with scripture as to my
reasoning, or go heavy in scripture and light on personal understanding,
Which would you prefer. I noticed the other day that you dropped aa out of
the NG’s. I appreciated that.

In regards to this last statement of yours. I can’t tell you from personal
experience, that when I was not walking as a believer, I knew not the voice
of God, nor could I tell the difference between the thoughts of the evil one,
or my own. I only wondered why at times I would think of driving into a
concrete bridge support or barrier, and wonder why I had those thoughts as
there was nothing in my life that was that bad at the time. When I was 13 I
asked God a question, he answered it, and then asked me if I was willing to
opt in. That was in my right side, then on my left the evil one said that I
was only 13 and haven’t seen the greener grass on the other side. Bottom
line, I told God, Not now, later. That was a huge mistake on my part. That
was the only time I ever heard a difference with was all totally outside of
myself, for decades. Now as a Believer, I can clearly tell the differences,
especially since the Spirit of God is part of my life. When I gave my life to
Jesus, all those thoughts about driving into concrete disappeared, and I then
realized those were not my thoughts. Years later While falling asleep I was
startled by hearing a chain of vile words that would even make MM blush. It
was like someone rode a train or pulled a towel though my ears, my first
reaction was, Why did I think that, then I realized the extreme filth of
those words, which I knew were not in my heart to say. I then rebuked satan
per scripture, and went to sleep.
As to other gods? The only ones that have voices are of the evil one, Satan.
And the authority over them all is included in the authority over Satan that
the Lord gives the believer. It does not prevent the evil one from trying to
speak, but it does take away all authority from him in my life.

the Bible has much to say on this topic, teaching us about the wiles and
temptations of the evil one. He has been active in this world, ever since it
was recreated, and Adam succumbed to his temptation. Even Jesus was tempted
by him when Jesus was at his weakest point after fasting for 40 days and
nights. Few understand the fullness of which he was tempted, but satan knew
why he was here and used that as a temptation as well.

Post by El Kabong
Then one has to determine if the voice comports with the
bible or not. It doesn't sound very simple to me.

How does one know if they are "in Christ"?

“The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the
children of God: And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs
with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified
together.” (Rom 8:16-17, KJV)

This too I have experienced.

Then, how do you know who's "in Christ" and who's not?

Sometime the same way as above, Other times in my spirit I sense a caution
because something is just not right, and especially in combination with their
actions. Recently there was a preacher of a large church and something was
just not right about him, so I asked the Lord about it, soon after the truth
came out and although he denied to depth or his errors, it was proven that it
was far worse than he or the woman said it was.

Yet there have been situations where I missed judged by acting to quickly and
so I am not so fast to say that someone is not of God. As some are slow to
grow in the Lord, and so they make mistakes, yet I learned they really cared
about the Lord and had a heart towards him.

That's the whole problem, is it not?

It can be for those that are unwise. But even if a person is correct in their
assessment of another, it is a mistake to get caught up in their diatribes,
rants, and dogmas. And that point was brought home strongly by the comments
of some from aa.

Post by El Kabong
If MX or James or Rosie says God told them something, do
you accept it at face value? Probably not, right?

Theology is not of God, James ignores scripture, twists and distorts it as
trained by his mentors.
If he won’t take the truth of the Bible into account why would I expect him
to understand my words.
For instance, did you know that both the JW’s and the mormons never taught
of believed that a person could be “Born Again” yet after the “Jesus
movement” both came up with their definitions of it. There are a whole lot
of other issue but to a typical atheist of someone of an asian religion, etc.
They just lump all the “christians’ into one bag. Can’t really blame
them as they have no understanding of what it is all about, and the various
denominations are typically at each others throat.

But that is going to change quickly as the Lord is stirring the pot WW, and
the current outpouring of the Holy Spirit is moving swiftly around the world,
as Jesus is coming back for His believers very soon. And when they are gone,
you will hear those who knew about it and were left behind making up all
sorts of excuses.

Perhaps you think there's something in the voice he hears
that should be telling him his theology is wrong, and he
should take up yours? It's just as apparent to me that
the voice of reason says you are both barking up the tree
of fictitious objects of faith.

He should not take up mine, no one should, they should take up the Lord and
His word, and see for themselves, thus making the truth theirs. Some see
Faith as a religious concept, their rites and rotes, their dogmas. But the
Faith of God is far, far different. It is a trust, a confidence one has in
the word of God, and whether or not they fully understand it, they will do
what God says. It is like a small child whose daddy is the biggest baddest
guy around who will defend them at all costs, and whatever they ask their Dad
to do he will accomplish it. That confidence in their Dad, is similar to ones
faith in God, knowing that he does not lie.

In the end, we have to decide for ourselves, but we don't
get to decide for our neighbor, do we?

You are correct, and religions decide for their neighbor, and hence wars
result.

Dalton is not of God.

You're free to have your opinion... but that's an example
of what I was talking about above.

He is not a christian, has not given his heart to the Lord, does his own
chants and spells and he listens to know one. He is no better than others
who practice Voo Doo with spells and such. It is not an opinion but an
understanding of spiritual fact.

Obviously Dalton isn't an xtian, and he never tried to
be. He marches to his own drummer and he's open about
that. He is just as rational as any other person of
faith.

I have seen him try to mix the two not too long ago, but I rarely read
anything he posts.

The MXtian view would be "i'm right, you're wrong, and
i'm in charge here". In a pluralistic post-inquisition
society, most people have come to accept that as
counter-productive. If nothing else, you need a little
respect for people's beliefs in order to evangelize them.

He has a history behind him that extends for decades.

Post by Robert
The voice is as realistic as if I was standing near you and speaking to you.
There are other ways of communicating, via thoughts. A very real exchange or
communication also.
An example of that in the case of Satans influence are thoughts that pop into
ones head suggesting that they drive into, or off of a bridge or overpass.
The Lord can and also does communicate via what one would think of as
thoughts, but they would always be in true accordance with the Holy Bible and
can be verified with it. That too can be done in a variety of ways.
There is no set pattern for communication, the ways and means of it. God is
a friend to those that believe, and after all, when one prays to God are they
not speaking to Him? Why speak to him if you do not expect or want an answer
or understanding?

Now this is what i wanted to hear about.
Does it happen often to you? Daily or more?

Post by El Kabong
Can you get answers when you ask, or do you have to wait?

That's pretty remarkable.

Yes, I was amazed when it happened and the quickness of the reply as to the
question, one of the reasons why it stood out so strongly in my memory banks.
I still thank him for it.

Post by El Kabong
Is it difficult to understand the answer sometimes?

Post by El Kabong
Do you think it's similar for other xtians?

Most certainly, God is not a respecter of person. What he does for one he is
willing to do for all.

Post by El Kabong
Thanks for explaining it. I'm curious, not meaning to be
contentious.

Thanks.

You are totally welcome.

Robert

2024-09-03 03:22:38 UTC

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Post by Robert
Where is your proof of self-deceit? From the voices in your head?

Heart. Yes, the Lord is never wrong.
In the Name of Jesus

When what you hear is distinctly different from the Word of God,
unless
you
walk in self-deceit it should have smacked you in the face that you
are
not
hearing from the Heavenly Father.

Who do you think is speaking to MX's heart?

I can only say that he is not listening to the Heavenly Father, or
Jesus,
or
the Holy Spirit, based on his consistent errors. One can hear and not
listen.

Do you hear "voices"? How do you distinguish who's on
the other end?
Is it semi-audible, or telepathic?

Which world are you speaking about?

I don't know if there are multiple worlds.
You told MX, "When what you hear is distinctly different
from the Word of God,..." Whatever you were talking
about then, that's what i'm asking you about.

John, do you see the subtle glowing flaw?
4) All people have full access to God through the sacrifice of the Lord
Jesus Christ! Not just them in their personal religious magnificence!
Have you got a picture of the Pope touching people in his beneficience
as he passes through the crowd? :-). That's them.
And what does that tell you about Robert's self-righteous exclusive
Christianity? What have you been told all along? Sinner perfectionism!
Everyone has full access, anyone may enter the presence of God and have
his petition heard. The veil of the temple was rent in twain! Yes, even
King Bong can!
Personally, I would prefer Bong than any of these religious assholes,
vipers.
Mat 23:15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye
compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make
him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
NB: make them like them! Once you get approved by their fucked up moral
sinner religious judgements, then you are saved. And to stay saved you
must continue to be obedient to their fallen sinner interpretations of
the bible.
That is why it is said, Robert thinks he is biblical truth, and so does
ChristRose.
But they can't see it, neither dare they!
In the Name of Jesus

John, No man had direct access to the Heavenly Father but through Jesus the
Messiah.

“Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh
unto the Father, but by me.” (Jhn 14:6)

Jesus also stipulated that

“I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go
in and out, and find pasture.” (Jhn 10:9)

And that those that try and enter in any other way,...

“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the
sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.
But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. To him the
porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by
name, and leadeth them out. And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth
before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice. And a
stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the
voice of strangers.” (Jhn 10:1-5)

This is what I was speaking about to Kabong regarding “voices” but in
depth.

When a person is approved by God their name is written in the Book of Life,
eternal life.

No man can stamp the approval of God upon a persons life. No Man, can remove
a persons name from the Book of Life either.

John, if you are so interested for these things, or about them, then read the
New Testament, it is far more palatable than the vile language and attitudes
found here on the Usenet. Read and expect it to fulfill the empty hollowness
that plagues many people. After all, it is the word of God handed down
through the ages

Post by Robert
This is all the reality of a Spiritual Kingdom, one that has always existed,
still exists, and will exist long after this world and all its makings are
burnt up in a ball of fire.
All this is said to show that there is a spiritual reality. That supersedes
our reality in this world. Spirits once born never cease to exist.
In the spiritual world there is God and His kingdom, and Satan and his
kingdom. We have the opportunity to enjoy one and be apart of it, or deny it
and join another.
Spirits communicate. Whether they be of God or satan. God, of course is all
powerful and Satan an imitator and much much weaker. So weak that God has
given man authority over him even while we live in this earth. Yet he is a
pretender, and likes to imitate God to man. Mankind is often easily fooled.
And those that are not of God might hear his voice and think he is God, but
he is not. Jesus said, those of my flock know my voice, and we do, many who
have not been born again know not the difference, and they like to think they
are all goody two shoes, and pretend to be “christians” and are as phony
as a three dollar bill.
So to answer your question, in regards to MM. if the voice or voices he heard
do not match up with what God speaks in the Bible they are not of God,
whether it be a voice like mine, or a spiritual voice.
There are many voices in this world and none without meaning. Wisdom and
knowledge are required to make sense of it all. And if the voices in the head
of a lunatic comes to your mind and thoughts, yes, they too are real, and
generally via evil spirits. Whether a person recognizes is or not. Some use
Drugs, and have done so throughout the ages to contact spirits in the other
world. But God the Heavenly Father does not operate that way, and that way is
forbidden of God.
Yes, this is lengthy, but I wanted to qualify if some for clarities sake.

In the Name of Jesus

2024-09-03 05:46:39 UTC

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Post by Robert
Where is your proof of self-deceit? From the voices in your head?

Heart. Yes, the Lord is never wrong.
In the Name of Jesus

When what you hear is distinctly different from the Word of God, unless
you
walk in self-deceit it should have smacked you in the face that you are
not
hearing from the Heavenly Father.

Who do you think is speaking to MX's heart?

I can only say that he is not listening to the Heavenly Father, or
Jesus,
or
the Holy Spirit, based on his consistent errors. One can hear and not listen.

Do you hear "voices"? How do you distinguish who's on
the other end?
Is it semi-audible, or telepathic?

Which world are you speaking about?

I don't know if there are multiple worlds.
You told MX, "When what you hear is distinctly different
from the Word of God,..." Whatever you were talking
about then, that's what i'm asking you about.

John, No man had direct access to the Heavenly Father but through >

Jesus the Messiah.

What? Only holy sinner Christians? :-). One must pass through them to
come know God! :-).

You see how they try to divide and conquer, splitting up the Lord Jesus
and the Father; a deceitful context tweak? That is the spirit of Satan,
and it is rife in sinner Christendom.

The trouble with the self-deceived is that they can't help but deceive
others, and in doing so they think they do God service.

Remember...

John 16:2 They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time
cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.
John 16:3 And these things will they do unto you, because they have not
known the Father, nor me.

...that is what happened to you.

"4) All people have full access to God through the sacrifice of the Lord
Jesus Christ! Not just them in their personal religious sinner
magnificence!"

It is a personal free choice, and no one is prevented from calling on
the name of the Lord and the Lord responding!

(Snip the rest of the Robert Religion personal context waffle.)

Anyone can come to God now without the requirement of a sinner
Christianity pastor as oversight, an OT priest, a Pope, or anyone.

And remember...

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

That is what they do.

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

Theology cannot save a man; that is what they hope it will do.

In the Name of Jesus
--
God is God in all His Being. All the glory is His, for He is all glory.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30 I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

"The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence or proof is to be found."

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: a man full of bluster and bullshit in his
meaninglessness pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

"What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence."

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

"Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."

"But remember this: always, absolutely always, all the glory is the
Lord's and His alone, and anyone who takes any credit for anything, you
know, instantly, he is not what he pretends to be and is a false prophet."

"That light had to bear (bears all things) the darkness for us, but that
light did not ever become darkness."

"You must reach beyond the bible that tells you about Him, and into your
daily life to find Him in Person. He's there."

"What is wrong with Christendom? False understanding based on compromise."

"It is not in man to love his enemies. And if he tries, he is walking in
a lie and trying to raise himself up to the level of God."

In the Name of Jesus

2024-09-03 01:04:19 UTC

...

Post by Robert
Where is your proof of self-deceit? From the voices in your head?

Heart. Yes, the Lord is never wrong.
In the Name of Jesus

When what you hear is distinctly different from the Word of God, unless you
walk in self-deceit it should have smacked you in the face that you are not
hearing from the Heavenly Father.

Who do you think is speaking to MX's heart?

I can only say that he is not listening to the Heavenly Father, or Jesus, or
the Holy Spirit, based on his consistent errors. One can hear and not listen.

Do you hear "voices"? How do you distinguish who's on
the other end?
Is it semi-audible, or telepathic?

Which world are you speaking about?

I don't know if there are multiple worlds.
You told MX, "When what you hear is distinctly different
from the Word of God,..." Whatever you were talking
about then, that's what i'm asking you about.

John, do you see the subtle glowing flaw?

4) All people have full access to God through the sacrifice of the Lord
Jesus Christ! Not just them in their personal religious magnificence!

Have you got a picture of the Pope touching people in his beneficience
as he passes through the crowd? :-). That's them.

And what does that tell you about Robert's self-righteous exclusive
Christianity? What have you been told all along? Sinner perfectionism!

Everyone has full access, anyone may enter the presence of God and have
his petition heard. The veil of the temple was rent in twain! Yes, even
King Bong can!

Personally, I would prefer Bong than any of these religious assholes,
vipers.

Mat 23:15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye
compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make
him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

NB: make them like them! Once you get approved by their fucked up moral
sinner religious judgements, then you are saved. And to stay saved you
must continue to be obedient to their fallen sinner interpretations of
the bible.

That is why it is said, Robert thinks he is biblical truth, and so does
ChristRose.

But they can't see it, neither dare they!

In the Name of Jesus

In the Name of Jesus

2024-08-30 23:05:23 UTC

(snip)

There is no time wasting with Robert Religion self-deceived nonsense.

Yay! Well done!

Yes, Job was self-deceived!

The Lord revealed to Job he was self-deceived. Praise the Lord.

"But, but I made sacrifices for myself and my children continually and
studied my bible, listened to tapes and podcasts, went to church and did
the bread runs, gave lots of money, and did nice things for my family
and friends?" Yet, there was Job in the realisation that it was all fake
in his self-deception—it was all ultimately for himself!

The utter shame of being in the light of the Lord in that reality!
Learning you are a total fraud, a liar, a pretender, a fake through and
through and yet posing as though you are not!

Welcome to Phariseeism and sinner Christianity!

So, Job was overwhelmed with shame and disgust in himself for his
self-serving blindness and ignorance (thank God for that).

Job 42:5 I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear: but now mine
eye seeth thee.
Job 42:6 Wherefore I abhor myself, and repent in dust and ashes.

That place is a place that every son of God had to go through! Every man
has to be rid of his self-deception. In the end, however, every knee
will bow. Trust me, now is the time for that, though!

There is the Lord in His resplendent glory behind Job's self-deceived
and selfish veil in His glorious, wonderful patient goodness (for
another time).

After that, Job praised the Lord from the depths of his heart, but look
at what it took to get him there!!!

That is the narrow path, and few there are prepared to walk it!

So, now you can see in all of Robert Religion's rambling how
self-deceived he is. As I have said, I feel sorry for him, but that does
not change the truth. All his shallow and hollow waffle above is just
him trying to establish his own righteousness—self deception.

All sinners are self-deceived and self-serving. Remember, the bible
cannot save a man, only the presence of the Lord in His Holy Spirit, the
Messiah, the Saviour saves. Isn't that why He came? :-).

Don't squander the privilege of being discipled on your bullshit self
like they are doing.

Now, look at this...

Robert's apology "for his part." :-). How long has he been a sinner
Christian and there he is "apologizing" for the most fundamental
"wrong." Remember, it is not about right and wrong (legalism) with the
Lord, but it is with them; that just shows how little they know Him.

Now look at Robert's self-deception. Why? Why now apologise? Because
after he has had his big say, and say, and say, and say he is trying to
cover his ass with the Lord.

Jeremiah 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately
wicked: who can know it?

A bible grip is not going to expose that; rather, it will drive them
deeper into self-deception because of their self-serving. For example,
sinner Christianity and the Pharisees. Up to their eyeballs in scripture
but don't know Him.

2Ti_3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the
truth.
2Ti 3:8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also
resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.

2Ti 3:9 But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be
manifest unto all men, as theirs also was.

However, we all had to come out of self-deception with a heart that was
deceitfully wicked (self-deception, Job). But Robert, of course, is
trying to preserve Job's heart because he is trying to preserve his own.
Self-deception. Human moralism.

Remember, we talked about how the Lord does not take 2nd place! That is,
Robert apologising after he has had all he has had to say.

This is the end of the matter (God sees and looks at the end of the
matter), not the beginning...

Job 1:1 There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that
man was perfect and upright, and one that feared God, and eschewed evil.

...and thank goodness the Lord does see the end of the matter! After
everything is said and done, the above is what God did for Job.

So, in summary.

Here is something more here in a scripture Robert posted; rather, the
Lord posted...

“There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are
the ways of death.” (Pro 14:12)

See the progression...

"Remember: Bunyan: "Ignorance" at the gate. No certificate. "I feel in
my deepest heart that I am a subject of this kingdom."

Jeremiah 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately
wicked: who can know it?

Who is that man's heart deceiving?"

Now you know, it is his own heart.

And now the Lord's scripture...

“There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are
the ways of death.” (Pro 14:12)

I grow with every moment in the Lord too, and I will until my time is
ended here. So, we are in the same river and reliant on Him for His
living water, regardless of where we are in it. I am as you are.

Do, by faith, no matter what; He does not lead anyone to destruction.
Though, it might feel like it.

John 2:5 His mother saith unto the servants, Whatsoever he saith unto
you, do it.

In the Name of Jesus
--
God is God in all His Being. All the glory is His, for He is all glory.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30 I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

"The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence or proof is to be found."

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: a man full of bluster and bullshit in his
meaninglessness pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

"What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence."

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

"Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."

"But remember this: always, absolutely always, all the glory is the
Lord's and His alone, and anyone who takes any credit for anything, you
know, instantly, he is not what he pretends to be and is a false prophet."

"That light had to bear (bears all things) the darkness for us, but that
light did not ever become darkness."

"You must reach beyond the bible that tells you about Him, and into your
daily life to find Him in Person. He's there."

"What is wrong with Christendom? False understanding based on compromise."

"It is not in man to love his enemies. And if he tries, he is walking in
a lie and trying to raise himself up to the level of God."

Robert

2024-08-30 23:34:43 UTC

Post by In the Name of Jesus
(snip)
There is no time wasting with Robert Religion self-deceived nonsense.
Yay! Well done!
Yes, Job was self-deceived!

Wrong,
Jobs problem was that he spoke without knowledge, and by doing so he dummied
down the wisdom of God through his own ignorance, and when the creator of all
things asked him about how he did it, and why he did each and everything,
while going down a list of many things, he recognized that he spoke empty
words, like a big mouth who knows it all and he then realized how low on the
totem pole of knowledge he was, and that by doing so he was slighting God,
the creator.

In regards to those that "repent in dust and ashes and abhor for
nothing.â€
Many a pope has done this very thing. While flagellating themselves with
whips, etc. Believing that they are paying penance when Jesus has paid the
full price for the sins of each individual man.

MM has never said what he thinks Job did as far as I know, yet he knocks
others for not posting what the scripture says about it.

Post by In the Name of Jesus
The Lord revealed to Job he was self-deceived. Praise the Lord.

Nope, but that he was ignorant of those things., but that had nothing to do
with what he went through.

Your outcome and thoughts below are without excuse. You asked what did he
repent about, the Lord showed it clearly in the book of Job, why donâ€™t
you actually read it sometime? It is amazing what can happen when one yields
themself to God, and actually allows the Spirit of the Heavenly Father to led
them into all truth.

Post by In the Name of Jesus
"But, but Imade sacrifices for myself and my children continually and
studied my bible, listened to tapes and podcasts, went to church and did
the bread runs, gave lots of money, and did nice things for my family
and friends?" Yet, there was Job in the realisation that it was all fake
in his self-deceptionâ€”it was all ultimately for himself!
The utter shame of being in the light of the Lord in that reality!
Learning you are a total fraud, a liar, a pretender, a fake through and
through and yet posing as though you are not!
Welcome to Phariseeism and sinner Christianity!
So, Job was overwhelmed with shame and disgust in himself for his
self-serving blindness and ignorance (thank God for that).
Job 42:5 I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear: but now mine
eye seeth thee.
Job 42:6 Wherefore I abhor myself, and repent in dust and ashes.

Ignorance is not self-deceit. In order to deceive oneself they first have to
know and be aware of the truth, then deny it to themselves and chose to go
another path that seems more pleasing to them.

Like those that claim the Bible, aka the Word of God, is of no longer any use
to them as they have attained. Yet they walk in the carnal mind, and fulfill
their carnal desires as it please them.

Yes, I know, your heart is hardened against such thinking, and so much so
that you are guilt free. Yet those that care are required to bring your sins
to your attention in order that you might be saved from hell fire.
Jud 1:22-23

22 And of some have compassion, making a difference:

23 And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the
garment spotted by the flesh.

In the Name of Jesus

2024-08-31 00:10:08 UTC

Post by In the Name of Jesus
(snip)
There is no time wasting with Robert Religion self-deceived nonsense.
Yay! Well done!
Yes, Job was self-deceived!

Wrong,

Of course you are deceived.

Post by Robert
Ignorance is not self-deceit.

Ignorance is self-deceit, my self-deceived fellow, because your heart is
deceitfully wicked.

There is no place to hide in the light.

Job's "problem" was himself, you stubborn deluded recalcitrant.

In the Name of Jesus
--
God is God in all His Being. All the glory is His, for He is all glory.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30 I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

"The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence or proof is to be found."

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: a man full of bluster and bullshit in his
meaninglessness pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

"What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence."

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

"Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."

"But remember this: always, absolutely always, all the glory is the
Lord's and His alone, and anyone who takes any credit for anything, you
know, instantly, he is not what he pretends to be and is a false prophet."

"That light had to bear (bears all things) the darkness for us, but that
light did not ever become darkness."

"You must reach beyond the bible that tells you about Him, and into your
daily life to find Him in Person. He's there."

"What is wrong with Christendom? False understanding based on compromise."

"It is not in man to love his enemies. And if he tries, he is walking in
a lie and trying to raise himself up to the level of God."

El Kabong

2024-08-31 07:38:41 UTC

Post by In the Name of Jesus
(snip)
There is no time wasting

There is, actually. This is some really boring, dry,
meaningless, time-wasting shit.

C. Rosie at least has enough pride to not post his dreck
in aa. You and Robert insist on casting your kibble
before swine. How does that glorify your pet god?

<SNIP! of really boring shit>

In the Name of Jesus

2024-08-31 22:41:45 UTC

Post by In the Name of Jesus
(snip)
There is no time wasting

There is, actually. This is some really boring, dry,
meaningless, time-wasting shit.
C. Rosie at least has enough pride to not post his dreck
in aa. You and Robert insist on casting your kibble
before swine. How does that glorify your pet god?
<SNIP! of really boring shit>

How dare you call me boring, King Bong!

Sometimes you can be really nasty and cruelness!

In the Name of Jesus
--
God is God in all His Being. All the glory is His, for He is all glory.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30 I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

"The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence or proof is to be found."

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: a man full of bluster and bullshit in his
meaninglessness pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

"What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence."

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

"Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."

"But remember this: always, absolutely always, all the glory is the
Lord's and His alone, and anyone who takes any credit for anything, you
know, instantly, he is not what he pretends to be and is a false prophet."

"That light had to bear (bears all things) the darkness for us, but that
light did not ever become darkness."

"You must reach beyond the bible that tells you about Him, and into your
daily life to find Him in Person. He's there."

"What is wrong with Christendom? False understanding based on compromise."

"It is not in man to love his enemies. And if he tries, he is walking in
a lie and trying to raise himself up to the level of God."

El Kabong

2024-08-31 22:56:46 UTC

...

Post by El Kabong
<SNIP! of really boring shit>

TL;DR

In the Name of Jesus

2024-08-31 23:01:52 UTC

Boring, King Bong.

In the beginning, God, God eternal
--
God is God in all His Being. All the glory is His, for He is all glory.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30 I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

"The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence or proof is to be found."

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: a man full of bluster and bullshit in his
meaninglessness pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

"What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence."

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

"Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."

"But remember this: always, absolutely always, all the glory is the
Lord's and His alone, and anyone who takes any credit for anything, you
know, instantly, he is not what he pretends to be and is a false prophet."

"That light had to bear (bears all things) the darkness for us, but that
light did not ever become darkness."

"You must reach beyond the bible that tells you about Him, and into your
daily life to find Him in Person. He's there."

"What is wrong with Christendom? False understanding based on compromise."

"It is not in man to love his enemies. And if he tries, he is walking in
a lie and trying to raise himself up to the level of God."

Christ Rose

2024-08-29 17:49:09 UTC

========================================
Thu, 29 Aug 2024 09:33:01 +1000,
<vaoc3d$3k586$***@dont-email.me>
In the Name of Jesus
<***@outlook.com> wrote:
========================================

Post by In the Name of Jesus
John, note the spirit of Satan. CringeRosie and Rob Religion both seek
to establish failure in one another. These ye know-not-love
"love-oozers" are typical of religious worldliness. So much for their
"Oh so holy fucked up morals," eh. :-).
Now, have a look into the daily life at work. When the gossip starts,
what is it all aboutfinding failure in their neighbour?
You see?
The spirit of the world is everywhere and seeking whom it may devour.
Look at the grand presentation of it in the political arena. Politics is
constantly about finding failure in your neighbour and establishing
yourself in righteousness in the name of "tooth." :-).
Liars.
And what does that remind you of? Exactly, the sinner Christianity lie,
full of sinners trying to establish their own righteousness while
parading the "useful" theology of the righteousness of the Lord.

Anyone who claims he does not have a sin
nature or ever sin, is declared by the
Bible to be one who is "self-deceived",
who "makes God out to be a liar", and
who does not have the "truth" or "the
word of God" in him (1 John 1:8-9).

For as long as you deceive yourself and
make God out to be a liar, with the idea
you don't have a sin nature or ever sin
(as you hypocritically then label others
as "perfectionist sinners"), I will
continue to identify you as God's word
identifies you.

--
Have you heard the good news Christ died
for our sins (), and God raised Him
from the dead?

That Christ died for our sins shows
we're sinners who deserve the death
penalty. That God raised Him from the
dead shows Christ's death satisfied
God's righteous demands against our sin
(Romans 3:25; 1 John 2:1-2). This means
God can now remain just, while forgiving
you of your sins, and saving you from
eternal damnation.

On the basis of Christ's death and
resurrection for our sins, call on
the name of the Lord to save you:
"For "everyone who calls on the name
of the Lord will be saved."" (Romans
10:13, ESV)

https://christrose.news/salvation

Robert

2024-08-29 19:03:44 UTC

Post by Christ Rose
========================================
Thu, 29 Aug 2024 09:33:01 +1000,
In the Name of Jesus
========================================

Post by In the Name of Jesus
John, note the spirit of Satan. CringeRosie and Rob Religion both seek
to establish failure in one another. These ye know-not-love
"love-oozers" are typical of religious worldliness. So much for their
"Oh so holy fucked up morals," eh. :-).
Now, have a look into the daily life at work. When the gossip starts,
what is it all about—finding failure in their neighbour?
You see?
The spirit of the world is everywhere and seeking whom it may devour.
Look at the grand presentation of it in the political arena. Politics is
constantly about finding failure in your neighbour and establishing
yourself in righteousness in the name of "tooth." :-).
Liars.
And what does that remind you of? Exactly, the sinner Christianity lie,
full of sinners trying to establish their own righteousness while
parading the "useful" theology of the righteousness of the Lord.

1Jn 1:8-9

8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not
in us.

9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and
to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

Can you read v9? If sins are forgiven, they are removed. Why, do you deny
that?

1Jn 1:10

10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not
in us.

Did I say I never sinned? Nope.

So just who are you to call others liars regarding these scriptures?

Who are you to deny the truth of V7 which says,...

1Jn 1:7

7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one
with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all
sin.

Which preceded the verses that you referenced? And the word “cleanseth”
In Greek remains the same as it is in English. That being that it is an on
going continual action.

Why do you seek to deny that truth in spite of being shown that numerous
times?

And the verse before that speaks to you and your inactions regarding the new
commandment of Jesus that one loves their brother in Jesus Christ. Which you
have openly admitted in these groups. That action is one of “walking in
darkness” and doing so willfully.

1Jn 1:6

6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie,

Post by Christ Rose
For as long as you deceive yourself and
make God out to be a liar, with the idea
you don't have a sin nature or ever sin
(as you hypocritically then label others
as "perfectionist sinners"), I will
continue to identify you as God's word
identifies you.

No, you identify others per your dogma. The misunderstanding of the ways of
God and the simple fact that one is to walk in the spirit 24/7. Walking
carnally leads to death.

The simple fact that you walk about so deep in sin consciousness shows that
you are walking carnally, and are a works based person, as were the Jews of
old who following the law did so by works, ever conscious of the sin that the
Old Covenant brought forth..

For if it were otherwise, would [these sacrifices] not have stopped being
offered? Since the worshipers had once for all been cleansed, they would no
longer have any guilt or consciousness of sin. Hey 10:2

In the Name of Jesus

2024-08-30 01:56:30 UTC

Post by Christ Rose
========================================
Thu, 29 Aug 2024 09:33:01 +1000,
In the Name of Jesus
========================================

Post by In the Name of Jesus
John, note the spirit of Satan. CringeRosie and Rob Religion both seek
to establish failure in one another. These ye know-not-love
"love-oozers" are typical of religious worldliness. So much for their
"Oh so holy fucked up morals," eh. :-).
Now, have a look into the daily life at work. When the gossip starts,
what is it all about—finding failure in their neighbour?
You see?
The spirit of the world is everywhere and seeking whom it may devour.
Look at the grand presentation of it in the political arena. Politics is
constantly about finding failure in your neighbour and establishing
yourself in righteousness in the name of "tooth." :-).
Liars.
And what does that remind you of? Exactly, the sinner Christianity lie,
full of sinners trying to establish their own righteousness while
parading the "useful" theology of the righteousness of the Lord.

1Jn 1:8-9
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not
in us.
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and
to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
Can you read v9? If sins are forgiven, they are removed. Why, do you deny
that?
1Jn 1:10
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not
in us.
Did I say I never sinned? Nope.
So just who are you to call others liars regarding these scriptures?
Who are you to deny the truth of V7 which says,...
1Jn 1:7
7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one
with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all
sin.
Which preceded the verses that you referenced? And the word “cleanseth”
In Greek remains the same as it is in English. That being that it is an on
going continual action.
Why do you seek to deny that truth in spite of being shown that numerous
times?
And the verse before that speaks to you and your inactions regarding the new
commandment of Jesus that one loves their brother in Jesus Christ. Which you
have openly admitted in these groups. That action is one of “walking in
darkness” and doing so willfully.
1Jn 1:6
6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie,

No, you identify others per your dogma. The misunderstanding of the ways of
God and the simple fact that one is to walk in the spirit 24/7. Walking
carnally leads to death.
The simple fact that you walk about so deep in sin consciousness shows that
you are walking carnally, and are a works based person, as were the Jews of
old who following the law did so by works, ever conscious of the sin that the
Old Covenant brought forth..
For if it were otherwise, would [these sacrifices] not have stopped being
offered? Since the worshipers had once for all been cleansed, they would no
longer have any guilt or consciousness of sin. Hey 10:2

What is their problem, John?

And...can you see their right verses wrong foundation? They don't have
any other foundation because they are not in Christ Jesus.

Tell me, in heaven before the fall, was there good and evil? You have to
really think about that.

Gen 3:22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us,
to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take
also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

Isa 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and
create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

Yes or no?

So, in the new world to come, is there right and wrong, good and evil?

I have just seen that the Lord created evil in the light; impossible in
the mind of man. So, you know it is not about right and wrong, good and
evil, so what is it about?

This might help: if a baby when it is born represents the light, what
then represents the dark? So, what does that say about everything? I
know, it is not easy but to take possession of the promised land you
have to be push hard—like a woman would in giving birth.

Mike Tyson the boxer in his heyday said something like, when others were
in the gym running, he'd be out in the snow pounding the beat.

That is what this means...

(AMP)
Mat 11:12 And from the days of John the Baptist until the present time,
the kingdom of heaven has endured violent assault, and violent men seize
it by force [as a precious prize--a share in the heavenly kingdom is
sought with most ardent zeal and intense exertion].

Work the work that is put in front of you. You must do the laps of the
pool your trainer tells you to do, and with each lap you will get weaker
and stronger.

In the Name of Jesus
--
God is God in all His Being. All the glory is His, for He is all glory.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30 I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

"The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence or proof is to be found."

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: a man full of bluster and bullshit in his
meaninglessness pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

"What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence."

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

"Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."

"But remember this: always, absolutely always, all the glory is the
Lord's and His alone, and anyone who takes any credit for anything, you
know, instantly, he is not what he pretends to be and is a false prophet."

"That light had to bear (bears all things) the darkness for us, but that
light did not ever become darkness."

"You must reach beyond the bible that tells you about Him, and into your
daily life to find Him in Person. He's there."

"What is wrong with Christendom? False understanding based on compromise."

"It is not in man to love his enemies. And if he tries, he is walking in
a lie and trying to raise himself up to the level of God."

In the Name of Jesus

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