Post by RobertBeware the false teachers that teach these things without knowledge.
How dare Robert Religion call Bible QuipRose a false teacher! :-).
Why, John?
They both walking in the lie that they are bible truth, and that is why
their fighting will never end. You see, the spirit of Satan knows
nothing else.
In the Name of Jesus
Post by RobertThere is NO ONE mention in the Bible of cessation of the Gifts of the Spirit
for this church age.
1Co 13:8-10 (KJV)
8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail;
whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it
shall vanish away.
9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.
10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall
be done away.
One might say, according to the original poster of this thread that the
reason all “Christians” are stupid and without knowledge, according to
their theology regarding verse 8 since all knowledge has vanished.
Oh what an excuse for stupidity, a way of saying don’t blame me fore the
false teachings I present. Paul said that those that teach a different Gospel
than did he, let them be accursed. So Be It.
He also declared all prophesies will fail. Yet there are many that await
fulfillment. And will not be fulfilled until the heavens and the earth is
burnt up in a ball of flames and a new heaven and a new earth is created and
the New City of Jerusalem descends upon it from the heavens.
BTW, speaking in tongues and the interpretation thereof is equal to the gift
of Prophecy.
And the BOTTOM LINE of that context of scripture is the 10th verse, it is
contingent upon that which is Perfect has come. And the false prophet never
mentioned that, and more than likely knows not who it means.
Post by Christ RoseTongues were programmed to "cease of
themselves" (1 Corinthians 13:8).
"Love never ends. As for prophecies,
they will pass away; as for tongues,
they will cease; as for knowledge, it
will pass away." (1 Corinthians 13:8, ESV)
The middle voice of "cease" indicates
that nothing had to act on tongues to
make them cease. They had a built-in
limit. Now that the purpose for tongues
has ceased (see point 8 above), tongues
have ceased.
By contrast, prophecy and knowledge are
said to be made to cease (passive
voice), by the arrival of that which is
perfect (1 Corinthians 13:10).
"But when the perfect comes, the partial
will pass away." (1 Corinthians 13:10, ESV)
"That which is perfect" may refer to the
maturity of the church. It fits the
context (1 Corinthians 13:11-12), and it
means that Paul will see himself as
others see him, not as one who looks in
a blurry bronze mirror.
"For now we see in a mirror dimly, but
then face to face. Now I know in part;
then I shall know fully, even as I have
been fully known. When I was a child, I
spoke like a child, I thought like a
child, I reasoned like a child. When I
became a man, I gave up childish ways."
(1 Corinthians 13:11-12, ESV)
These verses explain that the gifts of
prophecy and knowledge would be made to
cease by the arrival of "that which is
perfect," which may refer to the
maturity of the church and potentially
the completion of the canon of
Scripture. Just as Paul describes
leaving behind childish things upon
reaching maturity, the partial gifts
would no longer be necessary once the
church reached full maturity, when full
understanding would replace partial
knowledge.
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God is God in all His Being. All the glory is His, for He is all glory.
Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30 I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.
Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.
Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.
Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.
Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.
"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."
"If God is not first in everything, He is not first in anything."
"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."
"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."
"Compromise will condemn you."
"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."
"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."
"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"
"The way of truth is the testimony of life."
"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."
"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."
"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."
"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."
"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."
"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."
"Priority is everything."
"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."
"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."
"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."
"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."
"Wait, rest, be still, and know."
"No man can wash his own hands!!!"
"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."
"The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence or proof is to be found."
"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."
"Man is not the centre of being."
"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."
"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."
"Man has no greater idol than his own will."
"Where is God hiding? He isn't."
"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."
"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."
"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."
"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."
"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."
"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."
"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."
"The definition of an atheist: a man full of bluster and bullshit in his
meaninglessness pretending he is the meaning of life."
"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.
"What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence."
"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."
"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
What a gift in a fallen world!"
"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"
"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"
"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."
"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."
"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."
"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."
"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."
"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."
"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."
"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."
"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"
"There is no such thing as random!"
"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."
"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."
"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."
"No sinner is sinless in any way."
"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."
"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."
"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."
"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."
"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."
"Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."
"But remember this: always, absolutely always, all the glory is the
Lord's and His alone, and anyone who takes any credit for anything, you
know, instantly, he is not what he pretends to be and is a false prophet."
"That light had to bear (bears all things) the darkness for us, but that
light did not ever become darkness."
"You must reach beyond the bible that tells you about Him, and into your
daily life to find Him in Person. He's there."
"What is wrong with Christendom? False understanding based on compromise."
"It is not in man to love his enemies. And if he tries, he is walking in
a lie and trying to raise himself up to the level of God."