Tongues Not Made To Cease By The Coming Of "That Which Is Perfect"

[Christ Rose]

“Love never ends. As for prophecies,
they will pass away; as for tongues,
they will cease; as for knowledge, it
will pass away. For we know in part and
we prophesy in part, but when the
perfect comes, the partial will pass
away. When I was a child, I spoke like a
child, I thought like a child, I
reasoned like a child. When I became a
man, I gave up childish ways. For now we
see in a mirror dimly, but then face to
face. Now I know in part; then I shall
know fully, even as I have been fully
known. So now faith, hope, and love
abide, these three; but the greatest of
these is love.” (1 Corinthians 13:8–13, ESV)

1) Notice, when it says tongues will
"cease", that's in the middle voice.
This means the tongues cease of
themselves, and are not made to cease by
the arrival of "that which is perfect".
By contrast, prophesy and knowledge are
said to "pass away". This is in the
passive voice. It means prophecy and
knowledge are made to pass away by the
coming of "that which is perfect".

Thus, even if one believes "that which
is perfect" is the coming of Christ,
tongues are not said to be made to cease
by the arrival of that which is perfect
(passive voice). They are said to cease
of themselves (middle voice). There is
no way to claim that tongues must
persist until the arrival of "that which
is perfect", or the end of the church age.

2) Likewise, "that which is perfect" may
refer to the maturity of the church. It
fits the context where Paul is
contrasting that which is childish and
immature, with future maturity (1
Corinthians 13:11-12). It may accurately
be understood to mean that when that
which is perfect comes, we will see as
others see us (clearly), not as one who
looks at himself in a blurry bronze mirror.

"For now we see in a mirror dimly, but
then face to face. Now I know in part;
then I shall know fully, even as I have
been fully known. When I was a child, I
spoke like a child, I thought like a
child, I reasoned like a child. When I
became a man, I gave up childish ways."
(1 Corinthians 13:11-12, ESV)

3) Even if "that which is perfect" must
refer to the coming of Christ, the only
two gifts which are mentioned as being
made to cease by "that which is
perfect", are prophecy and knowledge,
neither of which is a miraculous sign
gift. The one who prophesies speaks for
the comfort and edification of the
church, which is exactly what preaching
God's word accomplishes (1 Corinthians
14:3).

"That which is perfect" may refer to the
maturity of the church upon the
completion of the canon of Scripture.
Even if it does refer to the coming of
Christ, only prophecy and wisdom are
said to be made to cease by "that which
is perfect". Thus, the idea that all
Spiritual gifts must persist throughout
the entirety of the church age is
unsupported.

4) "Now" remain "faith, hope, and love",
but the greatest of these is love. These
are the three things Paul said "now
remain". This should be the emphasis.
Those who insist on signs and wonders,
as if believers are lacking and
unbelieving without them, contradict the
plain teaching and emphasis of
Scripture. They are just like the carnal
Corinthians who thought they were the
stuff, because of the sign gifts.


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[Robert]

Post by Christ Rose
“Love never ends. As for prophecies,
they will pass away; as for tongues,
they will cease; as for knowledge, it
will pass away. For we know in part and
we prophesy in part, but when the
perfect comes, the partial will pass
away. When I was a child, I spoke like a
child, I thought like a child, I
reasoned like a child. When I became a
man, I gave up childish ways. For now we
see in a mirror dimly, but then face to
face. Now I know in part; then I shall
know fully, even as I have been fully
known. So now faith, hope, and love
abide, these three; but the greatest of
these is love.” (1 Corinthians 13:8–13, ESV)
1) Notice, when it says tongues will
"cease", that's in the middle voice.
This means the tongues cease of
themselves, and are not made to cease by
the arrival of "that which is perfect".
By contrast, prophesy and knowledge are
said to "pass away". This is in the
passive voice. It means prophecy and
knowledge are made to pass away by the
coming of "that which is perfect".

Everything there is part of the context of the whole. Who are you to pick n
choose and make up your own false Doctrine, and turn it into your dogma for
others to follow. Typical for false teachers.

“Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail;
whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it
shall vanish away. For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. But when
that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done
away.” (1Co 13:8-10, KJV)

Note the context of the text.

Also, you are ignorant in regards to the purposes of tongues, its usage, and
its ministry function in the eklessia’s. One of them being the speaking in
tongues and the interpretation of it given is the equivalence of the gift of
Prophecy.

“I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all:” (1Co 14:18, KJV)

Also, here you go on to speak again about something else you know not of. I
pretty much expected that, yet you call yourself a teacher, falsely. All you
did here was parrot the ignorant thoughts of others on the topic.

Post by Christ Rose
Thus, even if one believes "that which
is perfect" is the coming of Christ,
tongues are not said to be made to cease
by the arrival of that which is perfect
(passive voice). They are said to cease
of themselves (middle voice). There is
no way to claim that tongues must
persist until the arrival of "that which
is perfect", or the end of the church age.
2) Likewise, "that which is perfect" may
refer to the maturity of the church. It
fits the context where Paul is
contrasting that which is childish and
immature, with future maturity (1
Corinthians 13:11-12). It may accurately
be understood to mean that when that
which is perfect comes, we will see as
others see us (clearly), not as one who
looks at himself in a blurry bronze mirror.

Snipped here to prevent further embarrassment to your anonymous self.

Why not give your heart and mind to the Lord, so that you can receive the
gift of Love, and the Baptism of the Holy Spirit?