On 26/08/2024 2:05 pm, Robert wrote:
> On Aug 25, 2024, In the Name of Jesus wrote
> (Message-ID: <vagq0n$29maf$***@dont-email.me>):
>
>> On 26/08/2024 12:21 pm, Christ Rose wrote:
>>> ========================================
>>> Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:07:42 -0700,
>>> <vagkgu$25dcs$***@dont-email.me>
>>> Robert <***@no.way> wrote:
>>> ========================================
>>>
>>>> On Aug 25, 2024, Christ Rose wrote
>>>> (Message-ID:<***@christrose.news>):
>>>>
>>>>> 1) What does Paul mean when he says we
>>>>> are "released from the law"?
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul explains that believers are
>>>>> released from the law because they have
>>>>> died to it through Christ. This allows
>>>>> them to serve in the new way of the
>>>>> Spirit, not in the old way of the
>>>>> written code.
>>>>
>>>> He fulfilled the law and disannulled it as well.
>>>> Being Born Again of the Father, gives then a new divine nature, and we are
>>>> told to walk in it, “walk in the spirit” while renewing the mind. We
>>>> are under a newer and better covenant.
>>>
>>>
>>> Which I have never denied and have
>>> stated repeatedly.
>>
>> They are both wrong, of course.
>>
>> If you are born again you are a new creature and don't need to be told
>> to walk in what you are.
>
> Tell that to God, who told the disciples to teach others that they must walk
> in the spirit.
>
> You are an example of those who try to teach others that the Word of God is
> unnecessary for the believer, yet you conflict often with it. One is to
> “Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be
> ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.” (2Ti 2:15)
>
> “But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more
> ungodliness. And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus
> and Philetus;” (2Ti 2:16-17)
>
> And that word applies today the same as it did then.
>
>>
>>
>> Unless they are transformed they will always see the bible as something
>> that it is not, through a sinner's eyes, and those eyes are blind.
>>
>> Rom_12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by
>> the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and
>> acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
>>
>> Notice it does not say "keep on transforming." Why do you suppose that
>> is? You can let me know. Do you see you have to be "transformed" to know
>> the good, acceptable, perfect will of God?
>
> It does say, "the renewing of your mind” which is an ongoing action for one
> is not completed when Born Again, as they are “babes in Christ” as Paul
> speaks about and complains also that some are still babes a few years later
> when they should have matured. Dwelling in faith, and the power of His Holy
> Spirit.
>>
>>
>> Like was said, "Unless they are transformed they will always see the
>> bible as something that it is not, through a sinner's eyes, and those
>> eyes are blind."
>
> Many have never seen, much less read the word of God
>>
>>
>> In the Name of Jesus
>
> Only a reprobate would declare themselves correct and Gods word is not
> necessary, and even incorrect based on their personal quips.
Robert hasn't got a clue.
And isn't it obvious!
That is what happens to a man who seeks to establish his own
righteousness and none worse than the man with a bible in his hand.
Keep that in mind.
In the Name of Jesus
>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Walking in the law written in stone and script, was with the mind and
>>>> followed up by actions of works.
>>>>
>>>> It was not written for, or held against non-Jews. A point few point out.
>>>
>>>
>>> 1) Jesus summarized the Law as the
>>> obligation to love God and your
>>> neighbor:
>>>
>>> “Jesus said to him, “‘You shall love
>>> the LORD your God with all your heart,
>>> with all your soul, and with all your
>>> mind.’ This is the first and great
>>> commandment. And the second is like it:
>>> ‘You shall love your neighbor as
>>> yourself.’ On these two commandments
>>> hang all the Law and the Prophets.””
>>> (Matthew 22:37–40, NKJV)
>>>
>>> 3) Paul wrote to both Jews and Gentiles
>>> in Romans, and said they are still
>>> obligated to fulfill the law through
>>> love:
>>>
>>> “Owe no one anything except to love one
>>> another, for he who loves another has
>>> fulfilled the law. For the commandments,
>>> “You shall not commit adultery,” “You
>>> shall not murder,” “You shall not
>>> steal,” “You shall not bear false
>>> witness,” “You shall not covet,” and if
>>> there is any other commandment, are all
>>> summed up in this saying, namely, “You
>>> shall love your neighbor as yourself.”
>>> Love does no harm to a neighbor;
>>> therefore love is the fulfillment of the
>>> law.” (Romans 13:8–10, NKJV)
>>>
>>> Just because we do not attain
>>> righteousness through the law, but
>>> through faith in Christ alone, does not
>>> mean we are dismissed from our
>>> obligation to love God and our neighbor.
>>> The Law of loving God and our neighbor
>>> still very much applies to gentile
>>> believers today.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Have you heard the good news Christ died
>>> for our sins (†), and God raised Him
>>> from the dead?
>>>
>>> That Christ died for our sins shows
>>> we're sinners who deserve the death
>>> penalty. That God raised Him from the
>>> dead shows Christ's death satisfied
>>> God's righteous demands against our sin
>>> (Romans 3:25; 1 John 2:1-2). This means
>>> God can now remain just, while forgiving
>>> you of your sins, and saving you from
>>> eternal damnation.
>>>
>>> On the basis of Christ's death and
>>> resurrection for our sins, call on
>>> the name of the Lord to save you:
>>> "For "everyone who calls on the name
>>> of the Lord will be saved."" (Romans
>>> 10:13, ESV)
>>>
>>> https://christrose.news/salvation
>
>
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God is God in all His Being. All the glory is His, for He is all glory.
Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30 I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.
Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.
Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.
Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.
Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.
"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."
"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."
"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."
"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."
"Compromise will condemn you."
"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."
"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."
"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"
"The way of truth is the testimony of life."
"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."
"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."
"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."
"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."
"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."
"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."
"Priority is everything."
"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."
"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."
"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."
"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."
"Wait, rest, be still, and know."
"No man can wash his own hands!!!"
"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."
"The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence or proof is to be found."
"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."
"Man is not the centre of being."
"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."
"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."
"Man has no greater idol than his own will."
"Where is God hiding? He isn't."
"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."
"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."
"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."
"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."
"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."
"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."
"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."
"The definition of an atheist: a man full of bluster and bullshit in his
meaninglessness pretending he is the meaning of life."
"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.
"What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence."
"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."
"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
What a gift in a fallen world!"
"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"
"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"
"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."
"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."
"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."
"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."
"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."
"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."
"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."
"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."
"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"
"There is no such thing as random!"
"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."
"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."
"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."
"No sinner is sinless in any way."
"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."
"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."
"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."
"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."
"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."
"Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."
"But remember this: always, absolutely always, all the glory is the
Lord's and His alone, and anyone who takes any credit for anything, you
know, instantly, he is not what he pretends to be and is a false prophet."
"That light had to bear (bears all things) the darkness for us, but that
light did not ever become darkness."
"You must reach beyond the bible that tells you about Him, and into your
daily life to find Him in Person. He's there."
"What is wrong with Christendom? False understanding based on compromise."
"It is not in man to love his enemies. And if he tries, he is walking in
a lie and trying to raise himself up to the level of God."